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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:45 am

    Just joined forest hunters and was hanging out by bonfire for some pvp with my thief build. Havnt killed butterfly yet so I'm open to invasion. Get invaded after about 30 min and invader runs up and drops 1 humanity and bows. He backs up and I pick up humanity. I'm afraid to bow cause I know something horrible is about big grin to happen. He turns and runs toward stupid butterfly. He just watches as i kill everything then he drops a magic :scratch: bandits knife :scratch: and he black crystal out. I message him thanks but get no reply. That was the most tense I've been playing this game so far, I was sure I was going to get back stabbed the whole time. Soooo... Any one need a bandits knife I have 4 of them now.
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    Post by theAnimus Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:50 am

    He should be banned from the wraiths! He doesn't deserve the red tint
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    Post by strangejoy Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:53 am

    He was probably hoping to kill forest invaders with you. There are a surprising number of darkwraith cowards that like to camp in the forest with hosts.
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    Post by theAnimus Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:55 am

    If he was at the fire, there was fog blocking the forest. Either way he's a coward though
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    Post by strangejoy Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:57 am

    Good point, animus. The butterfly comment should have clued me in. :oops:
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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:13 pm

    @strangejoy
    I've been killed by reds in the forest while blue. I don't get it, we are both supposed to be after the same goal. I guess anything goes w invading.
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    Post by strangejoy Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:20 pm

    Yup, anything goes. But that doesn't make the DWs who engage in forest camping any less pathetic. winking
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    Post by RANT Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:50 pm

    if i invade someone thats clearly a noob, ill give him a decent weapon and then one shot them with a backstab.
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    Post by Carphil Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:55 pm

    Yea like a broken sword+14, prob better than what they are using
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    Post by ZeGlobox Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:56 pm

    The reason for that is very obvious :

    Killing a SL 100 host will earn around 6000 souls
    Killing a SL 100 blue invader will earn around 30000 ( 5 times !! )

    see ? winking
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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:57 pm

    Ahh
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    Post by strangejoy Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:00 pm

    But the forest invaders are almost always much lower level than the host due to forest invasion parameters, so that doesn't really explain it, IMO. winking You also don't get any humanity by killing a forest invader. Now I can seen killing a DM, because their summoning parameters might make them higher SL than the host, and DMs suck.

    I think the best explanation is still: pathetic players prefer 2v1ing low level phantoms rather than a good 1v1 fight against someone their own level.
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    Post by Carphil Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:03 pm

    if a forest hunter kills a host, the darkwraith still can gain his/her humanity.
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    Post by Whknight Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:05 pm

    You know, thinking on it and depending on time elapse, I may get slightly annoyed and chuck a normal lightning spear at someone that is attempting to do that to me. I have actually hurled a Sunspear at a guy who, after hiding behind walls and corners took it in the chest just as he came up the stairs and started his bow animation sad
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    Post by ZeGlobox Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:09 pm

    strangejoy wrote:But the forest invaders are almost always much lower level than the host due to forest invasion parameters, so that doesn't really explain it, IMO. winking You also don't get any humanity by killing a forest invader. Now I can seen killing a DM, because their summoning parameters might make them higher SL than the host, and DMs suck.

    No.. there's no level match in the forrest convenant.. I verified that quite a lot of times...
    And even if there were.. it'd still be quite interesting !!

    First time I invaded the forrest as a red phantom, I had that (pleasant) surprise when one blue phantom got killed by the host : A lot more souls that what I was usually getting killing hosts...

    I never went for the "friendly red" myself though.. but sometime did hit blue phantoms when they were in the way twisted

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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:36 pm

    I guess being friendly red is like being Santa. 🎅
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    Post by shadowsoldiers Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:12 pm

    Scarf down the non-believe!#$!#$!#$
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    Post by Soulkrazy Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:17 pm

    I don't get it why a red phantom will be nice to the host? Isn't the DW job is to get as much humanity as they can out of their hosts? hehe! He probably had a mental lapse and thought he was a sunbro. silly
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    Post by deadagain Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:19 pm

    I used to get friendly invaders all the time in Demons Souls but you could kill everything as an invader.
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    Post by belkaizer Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:24 pm

    so the souls you get are dependant on level??? i killed a guy go gave 400k souls. on my level 161. so that means he was that high??? since i cannot invade lower levels. it was via red sign on the kilm.
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    Post by shadowsoldiers Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:25 pm

    I got 780k on my 80 from the same chick twice. so probably.
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    Post by theAnimus Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:27 pm

    Yes, souls received are dependent on a number of unknown things, including SL.
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    Post by belkaizer Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:28 pm

    that guy was funny since he buffed and started slashing my ghost before it even fully appeared. i kind of suck at pvp but i always let them spawn properly and even let then buff
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    Post by JBeast Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:31 pm

    Sometimes when I invade someone who's clearly worse than me and struggling with a level, I'll open up a shortcut for them before slaughtering them... That way I can still feel good about being a darkwrath, but I feel don't feel so awful about making some little nublet want to put the game down
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    Post by shadowsoldiers Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:32 pm

    I love when people do that because it doesnt work haha. and I always open shortcuts for people. Sometimes dangerous ones tho ^^

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