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    Post by Carphil Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:34 am

    aceluby wrote:
    Carphil wrote:Blue spirits dont lose humanity so in my opinion there is no problem about this happy

    No invaders lose humanity

    Don't red wraiths lose one humanity when killed? Sorry I never been a darkwraith I just used some cracked orbs and won the matches lol
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    Post by BLA1NE Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:00 pm

    Nah you don't lose humanity as an invading darkwraith. You keep your human form and just need to pick up your bloodstain for the rest. But you do lose the potential humanity from the host you would have killed, had you not invaded a farmer. winking
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    Post by Carphil Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:04 pm

    I see, thanks for the explanation. In fact there is no diference between invading phantoms, only that red wraiths needs to be human and so they can also be invaded, correct? That does not sound so bad, as a wraith you can collect a lot of humanity, I guess losing one its not so terrible
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    Post by BLA1NE Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:19 pm

    You can get invaded if you didn't kill the boss. winking

    But in the Kiln killing the boss whisks you to NG+, so you have to put up with being invaded while you're trying to invade. Also, while keeping your human form means you don't lose a humanity reversing your hollowing every time you lose an invasion, it also means you risk it all going to get your bloodstain... to be honest I've never died on my way to my bloodstain after I died in an invasion, but it could happen! Whoops, there goes 99 humanities!
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    Post by Carphil Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:47 pm

    Wow I would never join red wraiths. My kill/death ratio is like 0.25
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    Post by JY4answer Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:27 pm

    Practise, young one. I used to be a noobie too. Now I get from 0 to 99 humanity in 10 hours of PvPing.
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    Post by User Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:32 pm

    Meh. Who needs an orb when ya got Dried Fingers. that, or summon a Red Soapstone or Dragon being. I can handle losing my human form, I can easily receive humanity back one way or another, no problem.

    Or I can use the Eye of Death. Either way, it is easier making people come to you than to come to them.
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    Post by JY4answer Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:49 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:Meh. Who needs an orb when ya got Dried Fingers. that, or summon a Red Soapstone or Dragon being. I can handle losing my human form, I can easily receive humanity back one way or another, no problem.

    Or I can use the Eye of Death. Either way, it is easier making people come to you than to come to them.

    True that. I enjoy hosting a lot more. No farming, no estus, good games.
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    Post by Purplebuds Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:51 pm

    BLA1NE wrote:... to be honest I've never died on my way to my bloodstain after I died in an invasion, but it could happen! Whoops, there goes 99 humanities!

    That's what I said.. until I lost over 300 humanity and 50 million souls in totals (Hasn't happened only once ha). Not that it matters anyway, don't use them for anything.
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    Post by User Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:54 pm

    If you always have that much humanity, you should just keep a chaos weapon with you. It seems that would be the general basis for people who always have Humanity on the person, right?
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    Post by Purplebuds Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:57 pm

    Well it all depends on the build. I use CMW so a chaos weapon is a no go for me. Maybe as an alternate weapon but I generally never use one.



    Edit: Not to mention the reason I lose them is always something stupid. ie: Getting impatient and invading as soon as I get in, then not able to reach my stain before invading and its a 3v1 gangbang lol, or being on the phone while running down the stairs at Kiln etc.
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    Post by Eliteknight Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:10 pm

    Found a couple of people something similar in the painted world, but I murdered him and his phantom and I guess that doesn't make for good youtube videos does it? silly

    Also, we can see that guys gamertag in the vid, but not yours, that is the bigger **** move here imo.
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    Post by Serious_Much Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:13 pm

    Carphil wrote:Wow I would never join red wraiths. My kill/death ratio is like 0.25

    wtf is a kill/death ratio?

    aint that some bull **** that COD players say?
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    Post by aceluby Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:13 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:If you always have that much humanity, you should just keep a chaos weapon with you. It seems that would be the general basis for people who always have Humanity on the person, right?

    Humanity also boosts defense by quite a bit and will boost all the way up to 99 IIRC
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    Post by Purplebuds Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:28 pm

    aceluby wrote:
    Acidic_Cook wrote:If you always have that much humanity, you should just keep a chaos weapon with you. It seems that would be the general basis for people who always have Humanity on the person, right?

    Humanity also boosts defense by quite a bit and will boost all the way up to 99 IIRC

    It goes up to 98 happy. But between 75 and 98 barely any difference.
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    Post by JY4answer Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:36 pm

    aceluby wrote:
    Acidic_Cook wrote:If you always have that much humanity, you should just keep a chaos weapon with you. It seems that would be the general basis for people who always have Humanity on the person, right?

    Humanity also boosts defense by quite a bit and will boost all the way up to 99 IIRC

    Someone here said humanity gives a maximum of 89 extra physical deffense.
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    Post by Carphil Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:38 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    Carphil wrote:Wow I would never join red wraiths. My kill/death ratio is like 0.25

    wtf is a kill/death ratio?

    aint that some bull **** that COD players say?

    Did you never played Paintball in your life? And COD players says this?
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    Post by Purplebuds Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:39 pm

    From 0 humanity i have 371 (142) def, at 98 i have 401 (172). Im guessing its a fraction of your defense so higher your def is greater the increase.
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    Post by Serious_Much Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:41 pm

    Carphil wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:
    Carphil wrote:Wow I would never join red wraiths. My kill/death ratio is like 0.25

    wtf is a kill/death ratio?

    aint that some bull **** that COD players say?

    Did you never played Paintball in your life? And COD players says this?

    yeah course i have, only few times but im a bit of a sneaky demon at it twisted

    and yeah my friends obsess over it, say something about it every time i ask to play on their online, can't figure why..
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    Post by BLA1NE Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:26 pm

    ^That's not a problem... Most areas you can actually invade right from the Bonfire. So you'll die and respawn right over your bloodstain, all you have to do is press X!
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    Post by JohnnyHarpoon Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:22 pm

    I'm not reading this whole conversation, but damn, that negative rep is harsh.

    The Kiln is such trash these days, ***, I appreciate the creativity. Plus, I'm always looking 360 degrees in the Kiln, if I didn't catch you there it's not like I'ma lose anything for being a sucker.
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    Post by Shredder937 Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:19 pm

    that was hilarious lmao.
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    Post by Vector Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:29 pm

    I ran into two guys doing this in the forest the other day. But instead of hinding the just stood there motionless until I walked in, then they bum rushed me. I knew it was coming and thought it was just too funny. But I did get a large soul of proud knight out of it. At least they weren't throwing down junk.

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