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    Post by Forcefed Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:42 pm

    Praise the sun! Dark souls 2 has been announced! And furthermore, with a cgi-trailer:


    Now it's time to do some early analyzing on the lore based on the information we have thus far (which is very little).

    General questions:
    - Universe? Is it going to be the same as in Dark Souls?
    - Place?
    - Time of events?



    If I'd approach it being in the same universe as Dark Souls, the places would be different. Time too. I'd guess the time of events should be before the one in Dark Souls. As there was variable endings, I wouldn't like to think that the game developers would cut the other ending completely out. And the events in dark soul's plot were in such dramatic propotions (fate of the world) that if the happenings would be after the ending of Dark Souls' then it would have a huge impact on the looks of the world etc.

    Random guesses would be that the time of events would be around the time of war against the dragons, or time when Gwyn ruled and the light started to fade (before he sacrificed himself).
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    Post by Yukon Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:56 pm

    Is this real life? :drunken: It so soon to be announcing another.

    Namdai must have the whip on From or they are just that into it. Just wow... The trailer feels kind of strange compared to the other soul series game trailers, but... I really don't know how I feel about this just yet! Neat find, I need to go wipe the sleep out of my eyes and watch it again.

    EDIT: I'd have to agree with you. It does seem like that is Anor Londo at the beginning of the video it looks to me like it will be set before the events of DK1 as well. Also HOLY **** YES they made me my fur topped armour! OH, how I have wished for this day.
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    Post by ublug Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:35 pm

    This image, from Yukon's Design Works thread, was the first thing that came to mind when I watched the video:
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    Post by rety Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:48 pm

    I'm betting it takes place in a different land... Say, Carim or Catarina, instead of Lordran. It's what I'd do were I making a sequel to a game with multiple endings - just dodge the issue completely.

    Also that dragon looked like Kalameet.
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    Post by Repto Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:05 pm

    Is it just me or does the place at about 00:35 look like Nito's place or Ash Lake? Maybe it's the stone dragon or it's descendant. Maybe it's ancestor? I need to know!
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    Post by User Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:07 pm

    I would prefer Catim, not Catarina... Keep it a mystery to me, with almost little to no info. Like last game.

    :estus:

    Carim never shut their mouth in terms of detail. I would be fine seeing their world
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    Post by Spurgun Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:07 pm

    rety wrote:
    Also that dragon looked like Kalameet.

    No disrespect, but you'd have to have a lot of imagination to make the dragon in the trailer look like Kalameet.
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    Post by rety Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:30 pm

    Spurgun wrote:
    rety wrote:
    Also that dragon looked like Kalameet.

    No disrespect, but you'd have to have a lot of imagination to make the dragon in the trailer look like Kalameet.
    None taken, but he does have a bunch of similarities to Kalameet. His body structure is similar, not to mention, y'know, the eye in his forehead. Not a 1:1 copy, but definitely of the same subspecies.
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    Post by Spurgun Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:39 pm

    The dragon in the trailer is more "muscular", and it has 3 eyes (Kalameet only has 1). Kalameet also has a beak, while this dragon seem to have a mouth. Not to mention that Kalameet is black.
    The only similarity i see is the eye on the forehead silly

    About the trailer:
    I don't think that the city we see id AL. It looks more isolated, and not as big.
    And i think that this game will take place after DkS, and that the Dark Lord ending will be the one that "happened".
    It does seem like the main character is on his way somewhere, i don't know where though.
    And the world feel a lot more empty than DkS. In DkS there are lots of different creatures everywhere, but the only creatures we see here are the dragon and the "clan" of humans that assault you. The world seems dead IMO.
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    Post by User Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:40 pm

    Undead won't really be able to survive, unless there was flames. Otherwise, they would never come back to life.

    :estus:

    Unless there is something we misunderstood somehow, or they retconn.
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    Post by Spurgun Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:45 pm

    @Cordell. That could be why there there aren't any humans, but shouldn't there at least be some creatures there?
    They're going to implement the respawning somehow, I don't know how though.

    The main character seems to be on a quest somewhere. Maybe the goal of the game is to re-lit the flame?
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    Post by User Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:48 pm

    Hm...

    When it comes out.
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    Post by johnnyjwa Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:04 pm

    Hmm that dragon has 1 eye...creepy
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    Post by Onion Knight Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:42 pm

    I would like it to be a new region with Carim being my favourite or several new regions. Or it is a prequel. I just want them to maintain the location variety of Dark Souls and expand on that.
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    Post by BIG TIME MASTER Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:14 pm

    Two scenes stood out to me. The rickety brige and that wide corridor with the spherical door that was clanking as it opened. Both reminded me of adventure movies I loved as a kid. The baddies with the hockey mask and the dragon were a tad of something not quite my taste, but the environments really impressed me.

    As far as lore, I think it has something to do with Gywnn and will be a prequel. I don't know much about lore though.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:16 pm

    The Dragon in the Trailer actually reminds me more of the dead Dragon from Demon's Souls, the one with the three Crossbow men on top of it.

    This dragon seems very standard of fantasy as opposed to what is normally seen in Dark Souls. I'm not sure about what that means, since we know they were hunted extensively. So this might be a prequel of sorts.
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    Post by tinypantha Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:24 pm

    in the trailer the painted world bridge is shown. porcelain mask assassins are shown (ciarans group) theforet hunters will be in in a different forum imo ( it has a woods scene in the trailer) the dead dragon cave reminds me of the crystal cave a little (maybe before seath gains access) and above all REMEMBER THE TRAILER IS MADE FROM CONCEPTS
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    Post by Forcefed Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:42 pm

    Spurgun wrote:@Cordell. That could be why there there aren't any humans, but shouldn't there at least be some creatures there?
    They're going to implement the respawning somehow, I don't know how though.

    The main character seems to be on a quest somewhere. Maybe the goal of the game is to re-lit the flame?

    I'd guess the goal is something different than in the first game. After all, there was only one chosen undead to re-light the flame.

    In my guesses, we can pretty much forget the plotline from the first game. This will be something else which has happened somewhere different or some different time.

    The way they bring up the masked guys in the trailer seems to advertise them as a faction which has something to do with the plot.
    EDIT: and not to forget the lady in the trailer. To me it seems like she is to give the task to the undead.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:51 pm

    For the love of all that is fire and undead, I just hope she isn't a romantic interest. I doubt she is, but a voice in the back of my head just has me scared.
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    Post by Onion Knight Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:02 pm

    Well it is just a cgi trailer , it may most probably have nothing whatsoever to do with the story of the game (like Demon's Souls trailer.) She could easily be as much a romance option as being another Maiden in Blackesque figure. We just don't know until details come out.
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    Post by Repto Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:16 pm

    I remember in the original Dark Souls cinematic there was a woman catching some embers over a body. Could this be the same woman?

    Maybe since the woman in the first one was only there for flavour, maybe the one in DS2 is just part of the trailer as well, and not important in the actual game.

    I can't watch the trailer any more but I think she was shown quite often, so it's hard to be sure.

    EDIT: Okay, I watched the DS2 trailer again and I saw that the woman there has brown hair whereas the woman in the DS cutscene had blonde. Silly me :roll:

    Also, the link to the trailer seems to have been taken down but I found another one, albeit a bit shaky and blurry (hope I said that right). Not sure if I should post the link here or not incase it gets found. Should I? (Btw, I got it from a post here on the forums so you could just go and search for it yourself)


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    Post by User Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:19 pm

    The girl you see catching the ember had blond hair. And had more appearance to the Ash Maiden.
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    Post by Repto Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:23 pm

    Yeah, I just realised that. Oops happy
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    Post by Major_kenny Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:10 pm

    I'd say it is a prequel, it is too coloured and bushy xD, which means destruction hasn't happened yet. forests and wtv, and there's a dragon, which could mean this was before the original dark souls' opening!
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    Post by User Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:27 pm

    ...

    Too bushy and colourful?

    Hm... I don't think we saw the same thing. Maybe it looks bushy and colourful, because of the mountain he and her were standing on? The clouds can be a distraction.

    Trust me, there were bushy and colorful moments in Dark Souls.

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