Dark Souls 2! Good or Bad?

Hey guys, i was just thinking what your personal thoughts will be on the new dark souls game. Any speculation you may have, prediction on how the new director will change it, if for better or for worse, or anywhere in between. Please share any and all thoughts. Thank you

To me it's hard to say but I'm avoiding anything that can ruin it for me. Also Samurai I think this goes in the Dark Souls 2 section.

Really hard to say right now. I'm sure we'll see more this summer at E3.

Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:To me it's hard to say but I'm avoiding anything that can ruin it for me. Also Samurai I think this goes in the Dark Souls 2 section.

Theirs a dark souls 2 section? Crap im going to be hearing it from Fexds and emergence again T-T btw how do you guys respond to my posts so fast! o.0

Phoenix Rising wrote:Really hard to say right now. I'm sure we'll see more this summer at E3.

Well, if the new guy doesn't mess up i am completely up for an easier way of finding the covenants. If i didn't have dark souls wiki i would NEVER have found the Dragon, Gravelord, Darkwraith, And Darkmoon covenants.

All I know is if it's better than DkS I'll be ecstatic. Dark Souls is my favorite game by far. If it gets better?? WHOOOOOOOOA!!!! :affraid:

Phoenix Rising wrote:All I know is if it's better than DkS I'll be ecstatic. Dark Souls is my favorite game by far. If it gets better?? WHOOOOOOOOA!!!! :affraid:

EXACTLY. And while dark souls is an amazing game, its by far not perfect. Theirs definately room for improvement, mostly on pvp. I say DO NOT mess with difficulty, its perfect as is. But please Have better servers, lag is the major problem, the giant ink spot on the white sheet of near perfection.

Samurainova wrote:

Phoenix Rising wrote:All I know is if it's better than DkS I'll be ecstatic. Dark Souls is my favorite game by far. If it gets better?? WHOOOOOOOOA!!!! :affraid:

EXACTLY. And while dark souls is an amazing game, its by far not perfect. Theirs definately room for improvement, mostly on pvp. I say DO NOT mess with difficulty, its perfect as is. But please Have better servers, lag is the major problem, the giant ink spot on the white sheet of near perfection.

Well, supposedly they're using a whole new engine so the game runs smoother and is moving to a server-based system for online play. So they are making the improvements that are needed, from the sound of it.

Aw, who would be stupid enough to spill ink on the street! jk, But I think we should ask a Mod to move this to DkS II section.
back to the poll:
It's hard to say, I try not to go on the DkS II part much so it doesn't spoil too much for me. but all I want to see is sheathing weapons! then i'm good to go x)

Phoenix Rising wrote:

Samurainova wrote:

Phoenix Rising wrote:All I know is if it's better than DkS I'll be ecstatic. Dark Souls is my favorite game by far. If it gets better?? WHOOOOOOOOA!!!! :affraid:

EXACTLY. And while dark souls is an amazing game, its by far not perfect. Theirs definately room for improvement, mostly on pvp. I say DO NOT mess with difficulty, its perfect as is. But please Have better servers, lag is the major problem, the giant ink spot on the white sheet of near perfection.

Well, supposedly they're using a whole new engine so the game runs smoother and is moving to a server-based system for online play. So they are making the improvements that are needed, from the sound of it.

Sounds great! Theirs also a small targeting issue. Ever target an undead and have it jump off the edge just to have you follow it shortly after? Happens to me some, but not to often, and it mostly stands out because the target system works so well.

lol, you're nimble and precise you say? that never happened to me xD

Phoenix Rising wrote:All I know is if it's better than DkS I'll be ecstatic. Dark Souls is my favorite game by far. If it gets better?? WHOOOOOOOOA!!!! :affraid:

Dark Souls is also my favorite game ever, and the thing is, it can improve. Like Dark Souls was an improvement on Demon's Souls (gameplay-wise for sure, if not atmosphere), I would have hoped for Dark Souls 2 to keep improving in the same direction. But with a new Director at the helm, I'm afraid Dark Souls 2 will be more different than improvement.

I'm sure it'll be a good game, but I'm afraid they're going to tamper with the formula. Maybe it won't be worse, but I'm sure it'll be different, which makes it hard for me to imagine it'll be better. (I hate to be negative... but I have to be honest.)

Hard to say at this point because we have no goddamn game footage yet
I have no negative thoughts about the sequel yet and I'm just very excited for it really.

edit: we have to be realistic though...IF they are able to top Dark Souls with Dark Souls II it's going to be too good game for this universe.

im going to say good, because as long as i have some new toys with the same interface i will be content. i am worried about what it means for the series to actually have a direct sequel.... but we will see.

Hard to say to be honest I have faith in From Soft but at the same time the new directors are the ones I'm worried about. I just don't want them to do any drastic changes to the next Dark Souls. I think it's mostly because I haven't seen anything that the directors have already made that would put me at ease with this sequel.

Until we have been shown more info an game footage its all speculation omo.But I belive From would not hand over there baby too someone who would or is going to ruin the core game play of DkS.

Samurainova wrote:

Phoenix Rising wrote:Really hard to say right now. I'm sure we'll see more this summer at E3.

Well, if the new guy doesn't mess up i am completely up for an easier way of finding the covenants. If i didn't have dark souls wiki i would NEVER have found the Dragon, Gravelord, Darkwraith, And Darkmoon covenants.

The darker covenants should be more obvious to the player IF his character tendency is getting darker or pure black. Right now they are damn near impossible to find without the wiki guide. I mean, I would have never figured out that I needed to lay in a crypt coffin for a while to join grave lords, or that I should keep the lordvessel and fight 4 kings.

I think it will be better. Covenants will be improved, world/character tendencies will be implemented, new weapons/spells/miracles will be introduced to fight harder more aggressive bosses. The storyline will be an offshoot of something in DkS

Part of me likes the fact that those covenants were so hard to find, but at the same time I can agree that not everyone is going to think up of things like laying in a coffin for 30 secs just to see what happens.

I guess it's for the best that they make it easier to find the covenants.

[quote="GrinTwist"]Part of me likes the fact that those covenants were so hard to find, but at the same time I can agree that not everyone is going to think up of things like laying in a coffin for 30 secs just to see what happens.

I guess it's for the best that they make it easier to find the covenants.[/quote0

Thank you so much for your input. I also think its for the best. Im not saying just flat out stick them all in your face, but don't make them nearly impossible to find for someone without a game guide or internet

Odinbear wrote:

Samurainova wrote:

Phoenix Rising wrote:Really hard to say right now. I'm sure we'll see more this summer at E3.

Well, if the new guy doesn't mess up i am completely up for an easier way of finding the covenants. If i didn't have dark souls wiki i would NEVER have found the Dragon, Gravelord, Darkwraith, And Darkmoon covenants.

The darker covenants should be more obvious to the player IF his character tendency is getting darker or pure black. Right now they are damn near impossible to find without the wiki guide. I mean, I would have never figured out that I needed to lay in a crypt coffin for a while to join grave lords, or that I should keep the lordvessel and fight 4 kings.

I think it will be better. Covenants will be improved, world/character tendencies will be implemented, new weapons/spells/miracles will be introduced to fight harder more aggressive bosses. The storyline will be an offshoot of something in DkS

Thank you for your very detailed opinion. I really appreciate it and i hope all your wishes are met in the upcoming game. Thank you

[quote="Samurainova"]

GrinTwist wrote:Part of me likes the fact that those covenants were so hard to find, but at the same time I can agree that not everyone is going to think up of things like laying in a coffin for 30 secs just to see what happens.

I guess it's for the best that they make it easier to find the covenants.[/quote0

Thank you so much for your input. I also think its for the best. Im not saying just flat out stick them all in your face, but don't make them nearly impossible to find for someone without a game guide or internet

Or by someone with too much time on their hands.

Odinbear wrote:The darker covenants should be more obvious to the player IF his character tendency is getting darker or pure black. Right now they are damn near impossible to find without the wiki guide. I mean, I would have never figured out that I needed to lay in a crypt coffin for a while to join grave lords, or that I should keep the lordvessel and fight 4 kings.

I think it will be better. Covenants will be improved, world/character tendencies will be implemented, new weapons/spells/miracles will be introduced to fight harder more aggressive bosses. The storyline will be an offshoot of something in DkS

Thing is, the obscure covenants is probably the reason I got involved in the community to begin with, and the community is the reason I'm still playing this game today and have spent so much time playing it. If all the covenants had been up-front, I wouldn't have needed to look up the wiki, and I wouldn't have joined it, etc.

I may shoot myself in the foot with this question, but: have you ever been deeply involved in the community for an easy game, or a hard but straight-forward one? The hard ones can have a following, or a fanbase, but without obscurity, I think it's hard for them to develop a tight-knit community. It's what we all bond over; the fact that we have to discover the game together, and share our findings.

Never fear guys, I'll just go into an in depth critical review of the game, just shortly after it's announcement.
Since we know so much.
Oh wait.

^Have you been to the archives? Or any other section of these forums, for that matter. Other than the research threads, half of what we do on these forums is discuss, speculate, and theorize off of very little information. Past history, a trailer, and new director, is a lot to go on, for some people. It's enough to get us started, at least.

+1 hard to say. No gameplay footage yet.

Don't like a few aspects of what we've heard so far (No Miyazaki; trailer felt less like Souls; Shibuya can't keep mouth shut about story elements like charioteers). Like the idea of improved graphics and two-hand versatility. Only the first has the potential to make the game buy-or-rent, but there's a lot of unknowns.