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    Post by Midgar Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:19 pm

    It never occurred to me to use this on my Int build probably because I use the MLGS. I always thought it was ridiculous that a dex or str faith build could easily outdamage the MLGS with Darkmoon Blade. Is this spell worth it though? Can it do damage on par with the Darkmoon blade on an Int build with an Uchigatana?
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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:21 pm

    Yes, as long as Dex is high enough. I think 40 Dex is all you need. CMW scales with your Catalyst. High Intelligence too.
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    Post by bloodpixel Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:23 pm

    I'm pretty sure with enough Int and the TCC, it can outdamage the DMB rank 2, though correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Post by Midgar Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Yes, as long as Dex is high enough. I think 40 Dex is all you need. CMW scales with your Catalyst. High Intelligence too.

    Hmm well I'm wondering if it'd be on par with the minimum stats required to wield. Don't think it'd be worth it to invest a lot of dex on an intel build.
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    Post by xXDaemonarchXx Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:53 pm

    Hmmm.... I wonder If a build with minimum dex for a katana and 50 INT would be better, or a build with minimum INT for CMW and 50 dex would be better.... or a build that balances it. Anyone have any info on this? I thinking you would have to find a balance but I really don't know for sure.
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    Post by reim0027 Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:58 pm

    DMB at a +3 Darkmoon Covenant will outdamage CMW.
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    Post by Deadmeat95 Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:15 am

    Actually i thoml i read somewhere that cwm with the tcc will outdmg dmb
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    Post by reim0027 Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:37 am

    Deadmeat95 wrote:Actually i thoml i read somewhere that cwm with the tcc will outdmg dmb
    Initially. But, if you rank up to +3 in the Darkmoon Covenant, then DMB will outdamage.
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    Post by Kaksoppa Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:24 am

    CMW does 1,4x your MagAdj. I'm rocking a Dex build with 25 INT, so I'm using the Oolacile catalyst, with 180 MagAdj. So that gives me 252 extra damage. If you have high int, a good catalyst and a weapon with high base damage, you could kick serious ***.

    With the TCC at 50 int, you'd get an additional 410 damage with CMW. Only one casting though, unless you're going to collect it in multiple play-throughs.
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    Post by sen545331 Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:47 am

    as kaksoppa said:
    CMW is 1.4x magadj, which means your TCC at 50 int is 293 magadj x 1.4 = 410ish
    DMB +3 is 2.1 miradj, off of the talisman, so at 50 fai and darkmoon talisman is 226 miradj x 2.1 = about 475

    but that is also with full covenant rank into darkmoon, so, the choice is yours

    (just fyi as well, sunlight blade is also 1.4, but based from the talisman, so 226 x 1.8 = about 407 damage, but it also does lightning instead of magic)

    everything here is 1 cast (CMW is 1 with TCC, 3 otherwise) but you can get more copies of sunlight blade and CMW with subsequent playthroughs

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