by PlasticandRage Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:05 pmIs that an official patch?
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The worst video game of this generation.
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Yes, I have it installed. You can make a skill legendary. Reach 100 Destruction, then go back to 15 destruction but get perk refunds, and you can level it again. As such, you can be level fifty with 15 in destruction, and the base values in your other skills, if you just kept levelling destruction and resetting it.
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That's kind of interesting. Can you just level infinitely without resetting anything and still get perks? That'd kinda defeat the purpose of making a build. Eventually all characters would be exactly the same.
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PlasticandRage wrote:That's kind of interesting. Can you just level infinitely without resetting anything and still get perks? That'd kinda defeat the purpose of making a build. Eventually all characters would be exactly the same.
Soul Level 712 anyone ?
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Yep, except its level 252 to get all the perks, and nothing keeps you from going on to level up your attributes.
So yes, it does defeat the purpose of builds, and in the end you're so good at combat and crafting skills that even your equipment doesn't matter anymore, as long as it's enchanted with some 25% resistance effects and you're a breton.
So yes, it does defeat the purpose of builds, and in the end you're so good at combat and crafting skills that even your equipment doesn't matter anymore, as long as it's enchanted with some 25% resistance effects and you're a breton.
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This is a tad bit off-topic but, that's the same music in Asura's Wrath where you fight Augus. :|Onion Knight wrote:
In celebration/memory of the end of this current generation I thought of a fun little game ... find a game WORSE than this.
Seriously if you can top this pile of *cough* rubbish ... I shall tip my hat to you good sir/madam.
EDIT:So far the candidates to compete with Ride To Hell for worst video game of the seventh generation as chosen by the forum are:
-The War Z.
-Mindjack.
-Sonic Free Riders.
-Final Fantasy XIV.
-Duke Nukem Forever.
-Aliens Colonial Marines.
-Two Worlds.
-Rogue Warrior.
-Hour of Victory.
-Dead Island.
-Sonic 06.
-Vampire Rain.
-Steel Battalion:Heavy Armour.
-Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows-Part 2.
-Escape from Bug Island.
Feel free to vote on or add more titles to this list.
These games have been nominated not due to objectively bad points such as gameplay/story/level design/difficulty/genre. But on the *merit* of possessing one or more of several key points (as of launch condition with no post patches):
-Broken (a.k.a not working as intended or advertised)
-Bad business practice.
-Lack content.
-Overcharging for content available.
-Lack of playability. (A.K.A the game is barley functioning without crashing or game braking bugs rendering the game unplayable.)
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drdrack wrote:To me, stats in games are suppose to matter for it to be considered a rpg. In oblivion, most of my playthoughs I remeber never truly worries about which stat to take. (expect strength, because i like to carry more crap)
In oblivion, you can basically (with little effort no less, as long as you use the rubber band/stone trick) make yourself the master of everything in a relativity short period of time. While in morrowind and skyrim, it takes far more effort along with the diffculty to be even the jack of all trade and is nearly impossible to truly get everything into a single character. In Skyrim, there's perks. Which makes huge difference. While in morrowind there is misc skills, which does not level though action itself. Not to mention how easy it is to level minor skill in oblivion and you're probably encouraged to do so. (what with having all the skills you don't want to be a major just to prevent leveling)
Stats are a good system in any rpg, I'm not going to disagree. But oblivion did such a terrible job of handling it. imo, the system is ignorable at best, and just a simple number burden at worse. (because the simple fact that most people are obsessed with having their numbers as high as possible. And efficient leveling is the only way) Oblivion management of stat is so bad, that merely removing stats and replaced it by perks via Skyrim made the game feels a lot better.
However though, I am going to agree that to call this game the worse game of this generation is a bit ridiculous. It is definitely one of the worse games i played. For there are alot more broken games tech wise, not even game wise that are much worse then oblivion. However, since i did not play those games, because i read reviews. It didn't matter to me all that much. Oblivion however, has excellent review for strange reasons. (probably due to the fact that it was one of the few high profile games that was release on the xbox/?ps3? at that time)Serious_Much wrote:I wonder if Bethesda even thinks they're any good at making games.. Seriously, everything is subpar and they make it up by just using the motto "Bigger is better"
If this was 7 or 8 years ago, I will disagree with this.
Now, I cannot help to agree even just a little...
You have only shown that the stats & levelling system are different, not how they are broken. It doesn't make the game unplayable at all and you ignore the benefits Oblivion brought over Morrowind completely. I hated Morrowind and could deal w/ the stats because I could track my quests and wasn't forced to look at hours upon hours of scenery. Plus it's an offline RPG, there were ways to alter the game to fit your tastes, especially if it was on PC. Oblivion as the worst game of this generation is simply laughable.
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aceluby wrote:
You have only shown that the stats & levelling system are different, not how they are broken. It doesn't make the game unplayable at all and you ignore the benefits Oblivion brought over Morrowind completely. I hated Morrowind and could deal w/ the stats because I could track my quests and wasn't forced to look at hours upon hours of scenery. Plus it's an offline RPG, there were ways to alter the game to fit your tastes, especially if it was on PC. Oblivion as the worst game of this generation is simply laughable.
I am speaking vanilla wise, since a modified oblivion is for me is basically morrowind. (with a awesome trading system though
)As for the stats, i would like to point out that even the developer themselves even recogized the mistake. Therefore, Skyrim was made (i'll give you the link to the interview, if i remeber it still)
As for begin forced to look upon hours and hours of scenery. Exploration in Morrowind is amazing, indeed. But the game does move at a pace of a snail.
Stats aren't the only part of the problem, too. The best way to explain it i suppose is to use this saying i found somewhere online. A saying along the lines of
"Well, Oblivion does reward exploration. With the same copy paste of the welsh countryside on a sunny day x 1000, but still.
Also, the levelled loot does a good job in rewarding the player for his level with adequate awesomeness." (a troll symbol was added after, probably indicating something else that is wrong with oblivion)
"Oblivion is like a slot machine - a peculiar one that always disgorges the exact sum you've put in."
I agree with the fact that most of this is indeed my opinion, and i was kinda trolling. However... Make no mistake, I do hate oblivion (and it's one of the most played games I have
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wait, so I can spamm muffle to level 100 illusion over and over untill I've the perks to max everything?
that sounds.....................................fun
that sounds.....................................fun
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In Skyrim, I used the conjured swords and repeatedly hit Shadowmere over and over again for half an hour. The cast costs nearly nothing to use, and at the end I was nearly max level in both Conjuration and One-handing due to Shadowmere's ridiculous health pool and health regen. Ridiculously easy to do stuff like that in the game. Did the same with two-handed, destruction, illusion.........Shadowmere+low leveled spells equal massively over-leveled very fastForum Pirate wrote:wait, so I can spamm muffle to level 100 illusion over and over untill I've the perks to max everything?
that sounds.....................................fun
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oh I know the old shadowmare trick, but thats just for combat skills (and illusion) untill they hit 100, not to get the perks to max everyhting in game and have 1000000000000000000 hp. just by leveling illusion.
for the record, I almost never level anything other than hp. Mana maxes out at like 250 on my mages.
With enchanting, I can (quickly if I'm dedicated about it) make up to 2 spell types free to use. For any mage, this is more than enough to wreck the entire game, either by shrugging off all damage, avoiding all damage, or just stagger locking everything in game.
for the record, I almost never level anything other than hp. Mana maxes out at like 250 on my mages.
With enchanting, I can (quickly if I'm dedicated about it) make up to 2 spell types free to use. For any mage, this is more than enough to wreck the entire game, either by shrugging off all damage, avoiding all damage, or just stagger locking everything in game.
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Actually by enchanting outfits to give you 100% reduction to illusion cost, harmony will take roughly 8-11 casts to make you go from 15-100, then restart. I was doing it early in a town to test it out, went from level 30 on a character to level 80 in under an hour. It's thoroughly broken. For conjuration just cast soul trap on dead bodies and it levels conjuration. Alteration, stand in water and use water breathing. Restoration, jump up and down in a fire while casting heal, destruction is the only real hard one. Though if you have healing hand, and frostbite, reduce destruction and restoration cost, run a giant around in a circle. You will heal it more than frostbite will do in damage and infinitely get up restoration and destruction.
There are a loto f ways to break Skyrim.
There are a loto f ways to break Skyrim.
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It may be a free game, but let's throw in Dontrel Dolphin. Basically every video on that channel has what could be considered the worst game ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsCF-mz6Y6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsCF-mz6Y6A
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Oh, has anyone said Remember Me yet? That game was pretty horrid.
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I read that it was pretty bad. Haven't seen it at all myself.
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I haven't played it, but I watched gameplay of it. Seems like Assassin's Creed, except your targets are people's memories.
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I vote for Deadly Premonition. It was such a horrid, horrid title. That's my two cents.
And I know who nominated Two Worlds. Seriously man. It's bad, just not that bad.
And I know who nominated Two Worlds. Seriously man. It's bad, just not that bad.
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Assassin's Creed 3 is actually unplayable at times. I thought the series was pretty great, but I am not even half way through that one. It's so glitchy and is on my list of biggest let downs this gen.
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its so bad that its the greatest game to ever existZero LeStrange wrote:I vote for Deadly Premonition. It was such a horrid, horrid title. That's my two cents.
And I know who nominated Two Worlds. Seriously man. It's bad, just not that bad.
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That would be big rigsnsane32 wrote:its so bad that its the greatest game to ever existZero LeStrange wrote:I vote for Deadly Premonition. It was such a horrid, horrid title. That's my two cents.
And I know who nominated Two Worlds. Seriously man. It's bad, just not that bad.
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You guys wanna know what game is terrible? Dark Souls. Anyone here played it? If you haven't I wouldn't waste your time. That game is a framerate nightmare, the combat is slow and boring, the story is nonexistent and the game gives you no clear direction in where to go. I would hope that no one here was desperate enough to play a piece of crap like that, and I really hope that if you did you didn't actually enjoy it. It's just bad all the way around, and if you haven't picked it up yet, do yourself a favor and leave it be.
If you have.....God have mercy on your soul.
If you have.....God have mercy on your soul.
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You forgot to say how much it kills you. Seriously, don't developers want us to see their games' endings? What kinda ripoff makes a game that's impossible to beat because it keeps killing you?Elite Knight wrote:You guys wanna know what game is terrible? Dark Souls. Anyone here played it? If you haven't I wouldn't waste your time. That game is a framerate nightmare, the combat is slow and boring, the story is nonexistent and the game gives you no clear direction in where to go. I would hope that no one here was desperate enough to play a piece of crap like that, and I really hope that if you did you didn't actually enjoy it. It's just bad all the way around, and if you haven't picked it up yet, do yourself a favor and leave it be.
If you have.....God have mercy on your soul.
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Irony is, the story in dark souls is genuinely straight of the z list- "chosen one" is one of the biggest cliche's in story telling 
Love the lore, but the story is weak. AotA was an interesting subplot, but it just refers to the 'save the girl in danger' cliche instead
Love the lore, but the story is weak. AotA was an interesting subplot, but it just refers to the 'save the girl in danger' cliche instead
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Oh, I knew I forgot something.Reaperfan wrote:You forgot to say how much it kills you. Seriously, don't developers want us to see their games' endings? What kinda ripoff makes a game that's impossible to beat because it keeps killing you?Elite Knight wrote:You guys wanna know what game is terrible? Dark Souls. Anyone here played it? If you haven't I wouldn't waste your time. That game is a framerate nightmare, the combat is slow and boring, the story is nonexistent and the game gives you no clear direction in where to go. I would hope that no one here was desperate enough to play a piece of crap like that, and I really hope that if you did you didn't actually enjoy it. It's just bad all the way around, and if you haven't picked it up yet, do yourself a favor and leave it be.
If you have.....God have mercy on your soul.
Right? I mean, it's almost as if they made us waste that money to make no progress at all, meanwhile they laugh it up all the way to the bank.
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In all fairness though, there isn't much one can do to avoid cliches these days. :bSerious_Much wrote:Irony is, the story in dark souls is genuinely straight of the z list- "chosen one" is one of the biggest cliche's in story telling
Love the lore, but the story is weak. AotA was an interesting subplot, but it just refers to the 'save the girl in danger' cliche instead
