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We're actually going over "traveling salesman" esque problems in Math Class right now.

I found a game for it.. haven't played it yet though.

http://play.escapegames24.com/2010/06/icosien.html

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:We're actually going over "traveling salesman" esque problems in Math Class right now.

I found a game for it.. haven't played it yet though.

http://play.escapegames24.com/2010/06/icosien.html

Did your teacher tell you that finding an efficienct way of solving it will win you $1,000,000 (that is, the traveling salesman problem, not the game).

Never told me that, but I'm sure I don't have the ability to do it.

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Never told me that, but I'm sure I don't have the ability to do it.

Just as well really, its probably impossible. No-one's been able to prove it either way though.

Shakie666 wrote:

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Never told me that, but I'm sure I don't have the ability to do it.

Just as well really, its probably impossible. No-one's been able to prove it either way though.

Well, if we're looking for the most efficient way to do it, then I'm sure it's possible, but there may not be any equation for it.

Mathematical contradictions are great... "The interesting number paradox is a semi-humorous paradox which arises from the attempt to classify natural numbers as "interesting" or "dull". The paradox states that all natural numbers are interesting. The "proof" is by contradiction: if there exists a non-empty set of uninteresting numbers, there would be a smallest uninteresting number – but the smallest uninteresting number is itself interesting because it is the smallest uninteresting number, producing a contradiction."

Basically, if a number could be labeled as uninteresting, then it being the first uninteresting number, makes it interesting.

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:

Shakie666 wrote:

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Never told me that, but I'm sure I don't have the ability to do it.

Just as well really, its probably impossible. No-one's been able to prove it either way though.

Well, if we're looking for the most efficient way to do it, then I'm sure it's possible, but there may not be any equation for it.

Mathematical contradictions are great... "The interesting number paradox is a semi-humorous paradox which arises from the attempt to classify natural numbers as "interesting" or "dull". The paradox states that all natural numbers are interesting. The "proof" is by contradiction: if there exists a non-empty set of uninteresting numbers, there would be a smallest uninteresting number – but the smallest uninteresting number is itself interesting because it is the smallest uninteresting number, producing a contradiction."

Basically, if a number could be labeled as uninteresting, then it being the first uninteresting number, makes it interesting.

I have heard of that. It proves that all numbers are interesting.

Regarding the traveling salesman problem: the problem is not to find the most efficient algorithm for solving it. Its finding an algorithm that requires a number of steps that increases geometrically as the number of destinations increases (as opposed to increasing exponentially). Since the number of possible routes is the factorial of the number of destinations, its probably impossible. Still, you never know.

True, many times things have thought to be impossible, and then someone just walks up right up and does it.

BTW, Amazing Surgery by the "da Vinci" robot at work, put to one of Bach's symphonies.

Not for overly-squeamish:

For the Squeamish, so they don't miss out.

Because this isn't related at all to my last post.. New post.



I love this song.

Fun story.

Recently I decided it would be fun to try to platinum a game called White Knight Chronicles, which is a pretty fun game when it comes to gameplay. However, it turns out that it takes up to around 500 hours to do this, which is slightly annoying but tolerable. After that it turns out that that time can only be pulled off online, which is a much larger problem seeing as the servers have been shut down. Now pulling this platinum off seems like it's generally impossible so for the past half hour I've been staring at my screen wondering if I should just play through the story and quit or earn the platinum through over 500 hours of gameplay.

Bleh.

I thought you just said it was impossible without online capabilities?

I've never fully completed a game, not really. There's always though's out of the way achievements/trophies, that you have to try for. I don't care enough to.

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:I've never fully completed a game, not really. There's always though's out of the way achievements/trophies, that you have to try for. I don't care enough to.

Since when does platinuming a game become the qualifier for "beating" rather than defeating the last boss, clearing the last level, or finishing the main storyline?

Reaperfan wrote:

Soul of Stray Demon wrote:I've never fully completed a game, not really. There's always though's out of the way achievements/trophies, that you have to try for. I don't care enough to.

Since when does platinuming a game become the qualifier for "beating" rather than defeating the last boss, clearing the last level, or finishing the main storyline?

I didn't say beating a game, I said "fully completed." I've beaten tons of games, but 100 percented none of them.

The only game I have all the achievements for is TES IV : Oblivion. I played the hell out of that game,plus the achievements were easy. I'm not too bothered with most achievements unless they are fun or unusual.

That isn't an achievement so no. I hated the planes of Oblivion,they were a bit dull. Most of the game was,unfortunately but hey,it was my first game on 360.

The only games I played the cr** out of are Pokémon and Halo (mainly Halo 3).

My souls is probably locked up in there by now.

I've fully finished a game before.. Though only stuff that's easy to finish like fighters mainly.

I've done fully complete for both Souls, Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward, Flower and Linger in Shadows (which doesn't qualify as a game so much).

The common theme for all of those was a huge crushing wave of sadness when I beat the main story and decided I wasn't ready to let go just yet

skarekrow13 wrote:...
The common theme for all of those was a huge crushing wave of sadness when I beat the main story and decided I wasn't ready to let go just yet

This is why I never touched Gwyn yet ; _ ;

Soris, check out the Youtube Channel "The Complecionist" . I think they suck since i don't like their humor and don't agree with their criticism. But you as a complecionist yourself migt like it

Soris, check out the Youtube Channel "The Complecionist" . I think they suck since i don't like their humor and don't agree with their criticism. But you as a complecionist yourself migt like it

So I just looked at amazon and since I bought the collector's edition of DkSII the price has gone up by £13. (I dodged the bullet by ordering it so early)

Now I know what feeling moneysupermarket is like

KrazykevS10 wrote:The only game I have all the achievements for is TES IV : Oblivion. I played the hell out of that game,plus the achievements were easy. I'm not too bothered with most achievements unless they are fun or unusual.

Its TES. 100% achievements =/= 100% completion.