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Turtle tip

ScottyDoesKnow: Addicted; Posts : 148
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Turtle tip

Post by ScottyDoesKnow Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:23 pm

So up until about 5 minutes ago I would always have trouble with turtles. The guys who have their shield up the whole time and do an R1 every once in a while. Hard to parry em, hard to backstab em. Usually I'd grab the shotel and get aggressive, but half the time I would still die since the R2 is so easy to dodge. Or I'd try to get right up close so the range on the shotel hit them during the dodge, and then get backstabbed.

The solution: pull out the shotel and turtle right back. Keep your shield up the whole time, stay defensive and then throw out a one handed R2 every once in a while. Easy win and they get to see how frustrating their tactic is.

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Post by shadowzninjaz Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:39 pm

What i do against a person i know is turtling i try to poison them with a bow or i poise bs them, dead angling works well against turtles to but shotel is the easiest way to deal with them

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Re: Turtle tip

Post by Soul of Stray Demon Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:40 pm

shadowzninjaz wrote:What i do against a person i know is turtling i try to poison them with a bow or i poise bs them, dead angling works well against turtles to but shotel is the easiest way to deal with them

Poison Resin Shotel. It annoys turtles so much.

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Post by reim0027 Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:05 pm

Good turtles know how to not be BSed and know how to use their spear's reach to keep a shotel at bay. I'd rather fight gankers all day than to face off against a good turtler.

I have so much better things to do with my time than to spend 10 minutes on a boring tedious fight.

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Post by Leet Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:26 pm

When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not.

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Post by kazumoshi Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:11 am

TooLeet wrote:When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not.

This every single time.
The easiest way to take out a turtle is play the waiting game and mess around with them.

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Post by DigitaLinsanitY Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:14 am

Meh, I tend to just pull out a gold tracer. It turns it into a quick fight that no one enjoys... but at least it's over... regardless who wins.

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Post by Pilgrim34 Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:22 am

reim0027 wrote:Good turtles know how to not be BSed and know how to use their spear's reach to keep a shotel at bay. I'd rather fight gankers all day than to face off against a good turtler.

I have so much better things to do with my time than to spend 10 minutes on a boring tedious fight.

Reim is definitely correct but most turtlers aren't this good.

Chain BS them as a punishment for being boring players (this is easier without hornet ring).

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Post by Xero Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:22 pm

Good turtles is an oxymoron.

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Post by reim0027 Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:04 pm

Be careful with the GT if they have a medium shield that can parry. After spending a lot of time in the forest, I'm fairly decent at parrying a GT R1 spam (and I assume others are as well).

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Post by shadowzninjaz Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:13 pm

I'm for on a good turtle, me being one helps me fight others when im not since i have an idea how to play i will scout out what there moves are going be during the fight and look to see if i can dead angle or poise bs etc....

U basically have to play around and wait n wait all day for an opening, Which can be boring but worth XD

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Post by Lacedaemon Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:18 pm

Whenever I encounter a turtle, since I am not the best at dead angles, I will simply rush them and continue the attack until their guard breaks and when they roll away after wards they usually do a very stupid evasive maneuver which ends up getting them bs. Thankfully I've never had the pleasure of meeting what most would call a 'Skilled Turtle' so this tactic tends to work out pretty well

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Post by Forum Pirate Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:24 pm

dead angle with a spell or heavy weapon, even force will do the trick, and then bs them while they're stunned. using the zweih as my example, you'll deal 1500 ish damage unbuffed and without the hornet ring.

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Post by Seignar Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:01 pm

Plan 1: Deadangle/Shotel
Plan 2: Poison Arrows/Poison/Toxin
Plan 3: Backstab
Plan 4: Bleed Spam
Plan 5: Turtle Back
Plan 6: TWoP MLG N00B!
Plan 7 (If you can't/won't/suck at doing plan 6): Quit, saves you time

Spear/Turtling are the most boring tactics in the game

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Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:02 pm

Seignar wrote:Plan 1: Deadangle/Shotel
Plan 2: Poison Arrows/Poison/Toxin
Plan 3: Backstab
Plan 4: Bleed Spam
Plan 5: Turtle Back
Plan 6: TWoP MLG N00B!
Plan 7 (If you can't/won't/suck at doing plan 6): Quit, saves you time

Spear/Turtling are the most boring tactics in the game

8. Elemental Bows with poison arrows. Do some chip damage and poison them.

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Post by Leet Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:41 am

TooLeet wrote:When i'm up against a turtle and the fight is getting boring, I'll usually just stand there and stare at them. Of course they will keep turtling and i will play with them and dodge all their attacks. Sometimes they'll realize they're a boring idiot, sometimes they do not.

Cowardly downvoter back again.

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Post by SlintEastwood Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:50 pm

Xero wrote:Good turtles is an oxymoron.

Not really.

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Post by reim0027 Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:05 pm

It does take skill to be a good turtle. But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.

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Post by Maplepop Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:49 am

Unlocked Painting Guardian Sword R1 spam works wonders

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Post by Sentiel Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:24 am

reim0027 wrote:It does take skill to be a good turtle. But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.

I am honestly surprised to see an unbiased opinion on turtles in here.
Have a +1 from me good sir. happy

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Post by Xero Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:40 am

Why would you want to be a good turtle?

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Post by billy_bayonet Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:37 am

kick, kick and then kick again

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Post by shadowzninjaz Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:51 am

reim0027 wrote:It does take skill to be a good turtle. But a good turtle is one of the most annoying player to fight, hence the animosity.

Me with an estoc XD

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Post by Ahhotep1 Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:21 am

Turtle-pokers are annoying, indeed. Kick, stun, or use shield negating weap or trick.
Other then that even turtles gotta leave themselves open at various times. So, no big deal as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Turtle tip

Post by FinPeku Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:50 am

It looks like i'm alone with this, but i find turtles interesting to fight. When i'm using a dex or quality weapon at least. With str weapons they are a pain. Turtles are interesting to fight because i know so many counters against them but i have to try and decide which one of them to use and when. Should i go for a running bs? Am i close enough to parry? Can i dead angle with this weapon? And so on.

But i very rarely encounter turtlers. And the majority i do are not very good at it. So, if you ever invade me or i invade you, don't avoid shield pokes simply to be nice. I don't mind at all.

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