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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:54 pm

    so I like heavy armor and heavy weapons, but which set of armor you wear changes how people react to you.

    Havel: everyone and I mean everyone says to hell with it I need to back stab

    Guardian: Im gonna hit and run

    Golem: Spam him (I dont understand why.....)

    Giants: dirty tactics all around......I blame The Legend for this reaction


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:55 pm

    Spam him?

    Like you mean with R1s or with magic?

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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:59 pm

    R1 mostly as for magic they usually BS then shoot me as I stand up ( I pvp in the forest 90% of the time)


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:02 pm

    Beautiful form.applause 

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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:11 pm

    oh I should mention I play without a shield so that encourages them a little haha

    oh! and if I wear Smough's set they act reeeeally nervous


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    Post by RANT Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:56 pm

    Same thing happens to me while cooping, if I have my usual set up I won't get summoned but as soon add I put full giants/havel I get insta summoned.


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    Post by PyroElleh Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:17 pm

    Havel and Backstab: this is the best way to beat NPC Havel, yes? Soooo...... force of habit?? silly
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    Post by Dibsville Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:27 pm

    PyroElleh wrote:Havel and Backstab:  this is the best way to beat NPC Havel, yes?  Soooo...... force of habit?? :P
    It all makes sense now.


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    Post by The Letter X Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:54 pm

    I hit and run no matter what, but I do admit my natural inclinations are what you listed.


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    Post by lonewolf Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:21 am

    ever tried cosplaying a giant.
    it hurts man it hurts.


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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:52 pm

    I cosplayed a Giant last night shield and halberd all the way..........was more effective than I expected but dear lord did people seem salty


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    Post by reim0027 Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:50 pm

    Unfortunately, due to it's awesome stats defence/poise ratio, the Giant's armor was and still is a common ganker armor. "Giant Dad/Giant Mom" and all that. So, naturally when someone sees another in Giant's armor, then they assume you are ganker.


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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:51 pm

    oh and this too if i put havel shield on my back (in case I run into a mage) people get REALLY salty haha hate mail up 70% I don't even have to use it people just hate it being there


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    Post by Pilgrim34 Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:12 pm

    Don't understand why people would hate Havel's shield or any other greatshield unless you rely only on magic. I actually prefer to fight people using greatshields. You can bleed them/shotel them/poison them through it and they can't parry you back. They have just as many disadvantages as advantages.


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    Post by TheMeInTeam Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:53 pm

    Don't understand why people would hate Havel's shield or any other greatshield unless you rely only on magic. I actually prefer to fight people using greatshields. You can bleed them/shotel them/poison them through it and they can't parry you back. They have just as many disadvantages as advantages.
    Greatshield/spear is good fun in 1v1 though.  As long as you're not too predictable you can be SUPER annoying, turtle poking light weapon spam but also kicking people who get too close or even counter-BS. It turns into a nice mind game, because if you don't attack at the predictable moment a roll BS will fail them, and if you start kicking them + hit with fast follow-up stab the damage gets their attention. It's nice pressure, though junky vs gankers.

    I do wish GSoA actually worked in PvP though.  IMO bleed through a shield is ridiculous conceptually anyway.

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    And if people get too bs fishy you can always tickstab big grin.  An additional WoG is optional!  Dex to 16 because it's better than going to 40 str in terms of damage.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:53 pm

    fun fact for smough armor... i get a higher incidents of barefisted fights while wearing it, it might be because this particular toon is "very large" body type and so is rounder than a pumpkin but still, people either fear me unreasonably or are more respectful than usual.

    also what about tarkus's gear? i don't use it enough to generalize opponent behavior against it, oh and stone armor usually makes people over confident as its seen as noob armor.


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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:56 am

    yea for what ever reason wearing Tarkus is another set that makes people spam o-O no idea why


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    Post by lonewolf Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:33 am

    XuitusTheGreat wrote:yea for what ever reason wearing Tarkus is another set that makes people spam o-O no idea why
    they do it becouse they know of the, legend of tarkus.
    also youre using a greatshield, no parries = loads of r1s


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:20 pm

    which is when you swap to a parrying dagger or something to punish their heretical spamming, only a fool would expect the mighty tarkus to fall before mere spam!


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    Post by TheMeInTeam Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:56 pm

    Spamming tarkus is getting into a poise race vs someone with 79 poise who is carrying a weapon that breaks 75.  That's not a good equation unless someone's trying the old "gold tracer in havel's" setup or some such. In sets like that I see a lot more poke n role or more commonly, fishing.


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    Post by Rynn Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:00 pm

    I recently discovered not a single person knows what to do when you are using a shield in your main hand.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:33 pm

    Lot's of people react oddly to hidden weapon, I guess there's quite a few players who don't know it exists.


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    Post by mugenis4real Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:59 am

    XuitusTheGreat wrote:Golem: Spam him (I don't understand why.....)
    This is actually very true. I made a heavy pure pyromancer recently, and people would keep running right up to me just to spam R1, even though my Great Combustion would beat them every time. Guys invading me three times in, would still try the same tactic over and over again.

    I suspect that this is because of how unimpressive Golem armor is statwise compared to the other heavy armors, many players consider it "noob" armor, and who would wear "noob" armor? Why a noob of course!

    Just my theory, I like the way the Golem chest looks.
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    Post by lonewolf Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:37 am

    golem armor is not noob, only those that have played the game a long time would think of using something like that


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