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    Getting ready for Dark Souls II pvp

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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:23 pm

    Spoiler:

    http://mmdks.com/4dmh
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    Post by Rynn Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:27 am

    Getting used to fat rollin?
    Well I'm already used to it. The big thing is I-frames may or may not be a thing anymore. If they aren't, I've issues I need to adjust for, if I frames are a thing, life will be fine. I'm good at dodging.
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:49 am

    yea I used to use this 76 poise fast roll build :I http://mmdks.com/4dsd so I'm adjusting
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    Post by Rynn Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:58 am

    LMAO...
    Yes, that is the exact kind of build I think they are trying to avoid being part of the PvP meta this time silly
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:59 am

    yeeeeeeeaaaaa *cough*....... fat roll does have certain advantages though that I'm liking......like 1600-2k hp and saving a ton of points in endurance

    I'm sorta assuming there will be no FAP ring but there will be a havel style ring we'll see though ^^

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    Post by Rynn Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:21 am

    The saved points in endurance are sure a big one. Having the ability to win trades with any foe is the big one really.
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    Post by Cronotis Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:50 am

    I'm doubtful that heavy tanking will be that viable in pvp primarily because roll-bs has been confirmed to be doable in the beta.  We'll see come March I guess.
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:22 am

    roll bs is a joke lol me and my great demon machete laugh at that, just fight lock off and boom roll bs is a free win cause some dork will roll behind u, drop their shield, and then take a nice big machete to the face. I am unconcerned about roll bs existing in dark souls II, imo people who roll bs are free wins for me
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:25 am

    I have to imagine the wolf ring won't be coming back cause of "nude" 76 poise builds huehuehue http://mmdks.com/4dsv

    it also helps that heavy poise armor now requires :

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    so no more heavy armor dex builds
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    Post by Rynn Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:08 pm

    Cronotis wrote:I'm doubtful that heavy tanking will be that viable in pvp primarily because roll-bs has been confirmed to be doable in the beta.  We'll see come March I guess.
    People claim it's not viable now and I still win a lot of my matches.
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    Post by Sneezer Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:14 pm

    If you fat roll in Dark 2, you're better off never rolling. I-frames are nonexistant with it.
    Everything I've heard and seen about roll BSing in the beta footage (and trust me, I've seen a LOT) says that it in no way works the same way it used to.

    Don't even bother trying to figure out specific build stats at this point, all you can do is speculate. The new stats and mechanics are too different to translate a Dark 1 build to.

    Try changing up your playstyle, don't use any stamina regen, don't roll BS, play unlocked a lot, and submit to a BS every time your guard is broken. That'll work a bit better for preparation.
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    Post by XuitusTheGreat Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:41 am

    mmmmm if you go fat roll unless its do or die I can't imagine rolling anyway o-o I have a Havel's shield in my back up slot in case someone starts casting magic o-o only time I would really roll would be to avoid bleed ^^ otherwise fat rollers don't ever really have to roll since if someone is dumb and just starts to spam attacks you win big grin

    so I'll equip what ever the best great shield in dark souls II is and do the same
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:46 pm

    btw apparently barefists do good damage (200+ on a bs) and may scale with str (200+ dmg mentioned was on a base atk stat build with no real investment in either dex or str)

    oh and greatshield bashes are actually useful apparently as they can guard break your opponents into the new critical attack state or just flat out squash them

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