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    Change or Troll?

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    Post by LowTierFTW Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:50 pm

    Lets face it - the truth that is - This game isnt perfect and both PvP & Co-Op is flawed. Not really complaining about lag issues btw but just how ineffective this game is at trying to 'play' online. I noticed lots of ppl complaining over @ the Prepare To Die Forums about Red Sign Soapstone and how it works and wanting it changed in a new patch...

    and I quote...

    'That is you CANNOT properly setup/run duels and tournaments for "fear of being invaded" ...'

    Lol, the irony. Invaders being sick and tired of being invaded. You know what that also affects tho? Co-Op of course. I was trying to play w/ a friend through the entire game as an original duo build Alucard & Simon Belmont - but we were running into too many problems...

    1) It takes way too long sometimes 10mins+ to actually join someone's world via summoning
    2) If either of us die via .. well does it matter? ... we get booted from the server and have to repeat step one.
    3) Co-Op playthrus arent really that great considering you gotta do two or more worlds so TWICE or more the aggravation! Yay!

    Basically if PvP Arena existed there be a place where all serious PvP builds could play, ranked, non-ranked, tournaments, etc... and basically just chill and hang out and buy PvP items but at a higher price since getting matches and souls wouldnt be a problem like it is now.

    Basically Co-Op mode is just that Its basically like playing through the game normally but without having to deal w/ summoning, servers, invaders, etc... Afterall these are PvE Co-Op builds and would never compete w/ PvP since PvE is designed for limiting yourself and making the game more challenging...and to not make it a cakewalk a Co-Op is in this game. Depending on how ppl are in your 'Party' the game adjusts itself to be harder so that way the challenge stays and actually increases and its just ONE world you have to do not multiple ones which do get harder with NG+ and so on...Speaking of challenges king

    I've already proven myself solo in this game (Deprived Fist: Caestus = Lowest DEF/RES/Dmg Ouput) not to mention my 1st time playing the game which is the hardest was with a Caestus build, something that most ppl
    will never do, and since From Soft DIDNT get co-op right at all or PvP
    for that matter - not referring to lag issues btw - But that there is no
    co-op mode nor a PvP Arena. I'll just wait till the next souls game and
    see if they managed to stop being trolling PS3 FanJaps - FromSoft ver. & Namco/Bandai ver...?. Bcuz PvE &
    PvP are seperate for a reason; there completely different and if anyone
    actually did wanna step up and take it seriously theyd have no problem
    playing ranked and tournament matches in a PvP Arena not Troll PvE/Low
    Lvl Builds trying to solo or co-op or speed run through the game ULTIMATELY proving nothing bcuz it takes no skill to do so w/ PvE that cant compete w/ mid-high tier equipment unless they never limit themselves and make a hard game even harder bcuz they are casual scrubs.

    Instead were forced to make offline accounts, well for speed running at
    least, bcuz co-op is so flawed in this game and ppl who are playing with
    friends through the entire game or multiple playthrus cant w/ the same
    BS that ppl have to go through using Red Sign Soapstone. Which is funny in itself since PvP is a joke, too much lag which means I cant parry things all day like I do in PvE.

    Besides when it comes to 1on1 I prefer the real man's game that Ive been playing competitively for 6-7yrs: Street Fighter III - 3rd Strike maining Alex (14th Place Low Tier) working twice as hard to win and parrying (ground, air & red parry) and outplaying them via footsies, advanced mix-ups and mind games against scrubs who dont know how to fight as I as use a Pad, lol not a stick which is much easier to do what you need to do in a fighting game hence they were meant to be played on arcade sticks which is why they came out in arcades 1st - bcuz they were designed to be played with sticks for the BEST advantage and give you execution you cant match with a $hitty Pad.

    So the poll question simply is; maybe not for this game but at the very least the next souls game... Are you ready to Man Up?!! Or are you content with Troll Souls!??
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    Post by Unforseen Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:12 pm

    The Game wasn't designed for co-oping and pvp to be separate, hence the word INVADE...
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    Post by Serious_Much Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:13 pm

    This thread is an embarrassment.

    Even if they did make a PvP arena, it should be an area in the game world.

    and coop mode ruins the anonymity of coop and means that you'd need to have someone who wants to before hand, rather than just jump into coop for fun and souls would be a problem..

    the whole point of the online is that it is constant and interwoven, not separate like in other games.

    PvP arena and Coop mode would destroy the point of the DkS online in my opinion. We already have unofficial places to PvP such as dark anor londo or the kiln, so to me, it is not truly a problem.
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    Post by aceluby Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:25 pm

    What you are suggesting is not what the developers wanted, otherwise they would have developed this way. That doesn't mean it's 'broken' it means it's different than most games, which IMO is a good thing.

    If you'd like I suggest creating your own game and tweaking it as you see fit. Then when kids go online and complain about x, y, and z of your game you'll truly understand...
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    Post by strangejoy Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:15 pm

    Thou...Shall...Parry...

    I see you haven't learned much since your last wall o' self-aggrandizement.

    On topic, random invasions help set the tone of this game, which is supposed to be dark and unforgiving. Dedicated co-op and pvp areas tend to establish a community-type feel, which goes against Dark Souls' grain.
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    Post by Halicarnassis Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:14 am

    @serious - lol! An embarrassment - like it!
    @ strange - I really hate to break your balls but the Shakespearean conjugation of the verb "shall" which follows "thou" should correctly be spelt "shalt" - all verbs following this word end with -est, -st ... thou knowest it be true winking

    Dude I'm gonna have to vote on choice 3 here - keep the game the way it is and if you don't like being invaded play hollow happy

    Having a bit of a phukker of a day today at work - IT issues - virus on the server and my phone is on 8% battery! Sorry if I've rubbed anyone up the wrong way
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    Post by Serious_Much Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:27 am

    Hali, this thread was made by the guy who used to be called thoushallparry on old forum, hence why strange said that.

    sorry to bust your balls though silly
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    Post by strangejoy Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:38 am

    Serious_Much wrote:Hali, this thread was made by the guy who used to be called thoushallparry on old forum, hence why strange said that.

    sorry to bust your balls though silly

    Give this man a cookie! cheers
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    Post by Halicarnassis Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:47 pm

    Aaaahhhh... Just give me a second while I change the foot in my mouth for the other one...!!! And who said age brings experience eh?! Eh?? Lol! Sleep
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    Post by Halicarnassis Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:48 pm

    You guys are confusing me with changing forum name tags! sad
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    Post by kingkellogg Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:10 pm

    I do want a in game arena for tournaments and such
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    Post by theGentleman Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:44 am

    Call of Duty has a sweet voluntary PvP mode. Weird that the developers didn't call it Dark Souls.
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    Post by BLA1NE Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:22 am

    @Thou

    While I've always wanted a proper PvP arena to set up tournaments and such, I think your whole reasoning behind it is flawed. Unless I mistook your post (you do ramble a lot...) you seem to be under the impression that everyone who invades would be better served by a dueling arena, when that's simply not true. There will always be people who invade for the sake of invading.

    Invading places you in a position where you're hunting down the host while they try to beat the level, possibly with phantoms. It's an entirely different dynamic than dueling, so even if we had an arena many people would still be invading anyways. Many of them would also be doing both.

    Not to mention we already have an unofficial PvP arena, the kiln, and that clearly hasn't stopped people from disrupting your co-op sessions!

    And as long as we're on the topic of co-op, I don't totally disagree with your idea either. I'd like co-op to be better integrated within the game, so that you could actually do a full seamless run with friends. But that's like ace said: if From had wanted it that way, they would have made it that way. In this case it's really your wishes against the developer's vision, and as an end-user all you can do about it is find another game. And unfortunately for us, there really aren't any other games like the Souls series around nowadays!

    So stop calling the game flawed and realize that it's exactly as From meant it to be. Except maybe the lag... They definitely need to fix that ***.
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    Post by theAnimus Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:52 pm

    Lol.
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    Post by Flubious Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:16 pm

    I like the game the way it is. No change, no troll, no vote.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:18 pm

    the whole "I prefer troll souls" just make me laugh, this thread was hilarious back when he made it silly

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