This man speaks the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6p8qz6wv8M

It was either release dark souls with Games for Windows Live, or not release it at all.

I cried.

I was expecting to be linked to a video about me, I was highly disappointed Wade.

At "achievements mean nothing" I smiled, instantly admitting the smartness of this video.

However, regardless of anything - if, then regarding the fact he covered only 1% of the problems of GfWL - I HATE this platform. If it's only me, I will gladly wait 1 2 3 4 5 6 more months and play the game on any other platform rather than having GfWL. God, I would easily wait till 2018 if needed. Throwing money at them for free too.
It's simply impossible how bad this thing is.

Might be interesting for some fellow GfWL-haters:
http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/articles/122/1223378p1.html

"Do what we did 10 years ago and blame microsoft for everything."
What game is he playing?

I agree. Everyone begged for a pc release and their giving it to us. It does not look good on us as fans for begging for something, getting it, then crying in outrage because we dont like one thing. Its like someone giving you a free xbox and you turning around a crying because you did not a free tv and games as well so you can play with it.

The point is its not us crying about it. Many of us will not buy the pc release so we dont care. Its all the new fans, not the people on the forums. We're crying about the lack of dlc news.

I was responding to the thread, which was about gfwl. I too will be angry if consoles get no dlc.

It certainly does feel like a slap in the face that these players complaining about GFWL are infact complaining when they are offered new 'exclusive' content. Man up, I have to agree with Johnny, its just childish. They are releasing this in such short notice, and from such a small company. You should be happy to get it at all.

I have never used GFWL, but i still don't see that as an excuse to pirate/ boycott, its insulting to the console fanbase that they should be complaining at all imo. Until news is given that there will be DLC, not to say I don't doubt it will be announced, there is just no logic in announcing artorias and other NPC encounters that new players will know diddly squat about. The whole lot of exclusive content to PC just feels like a low blow from Namdai, but I doubt they will pass up releasing it on consoles, just at a later date.

Well from what the guy said some people will be forced to pirate it if they want to play it which, thats namco's fault and they have a right to complain. However for the people who can buy it they should do what he said and buy it, possibly not at full price, and message namco a complaint.

All of what you guys are saying is true, but think about it from the PC player's perspective.

Imagine, if you will, that you asked your friend for a glass of water. He says "sure," and goes away. Five hours later he comes back with a glass of water. "Oh by the way," your friend says, "that's dishwater."

Now, your friend was doing you a favor, so you should be grateful. But he takes five hours to get you water, and it's dishwater on top of that. Basically, thats what's happening right now. Feel free to dispute.

The game is japanese, there was not a large demand for a PC version as far as I know before its release in america, so you can't say its 5 hours late.

As for comparing GFWL to dirty dishwater, it seems shallow to me. I am going to say again I have never used GFWL, but I have a hard time believing it is so god-awful that it curdles milk upon sight.

I think a better analogy is you ask your friend for a glass of water and he says sure, takes 5 days to get it to you but, its water from a spring running high up in the alpines, the people this friend of yours got water for before, they just got tap water. They know what the water tastes like and they liked it but they are missing out even though they got it in 5 minutes.

That seems fair, as I haven't experienced GFWL either, I was just making assumptions based on what totalbiscut said.

But anyways, I do think that PC gamers have a right to complain, but not to boycott the game or anything like that. What totalbiscut said, about wrighting a complaint to From and Namco, seems like the most reasonable course of action.

Haha getting annoyed PC gamers to act resonably and logically. Good one.
Oh wait your serious ...

It's wishful thinking, but still, one can hope.

Companies have been putting more and more bulls***t restrictions on technology in fear of piracy, often only worsening the problem.

A friend of mine had a television, from around 2006 I think...it was a 50" DLP flatscreen. A year or two ago, it just stopped working with his Playstation, his Apple TV, pretty much everything that transmitted an HDMI signal into his TV.

We're pretty sure it's because of an HDCP update all these companies implemented...stands for High Definition Copyright Protection...but just seems like a ******** excuse to make old technology obsolete to me. Pretty much everything HD except hooking up a computer just stopped working.

He just started downloading stuff when we wanted to watch it. The ironic thing was that, before this, he was so anti-piracy...people to this day make fun of him for buying CD's.

He has since landed a job, gotten a new TV, and pays for s**t again...but the main point he made during that time was that companies are doing so much to prevent piracy that they end up f***ing over the consumer, when the consumer is really the person they should be appealing to and giving the absolute best experience possible.

Until they find a way to do that, piracy will be a process of escalation.

his1n- wrote:Might be interesting for some fellow GfWL-haters:
http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/articles/122/1223378p1.html

"if Namco Bandai gets the message and drops it as well, as it's hinted that it might, GFWL"

That would shut every body up.