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    Post by Tolvo Sun May 27, 2012 2:17 am

    Sounds like a nice place, though now I imagine you as this guy sitting in pitch darkness playing, that if someone opens your door a cloud of smoke just fills the hall haha. silly
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 2:19 am

    At first i thought you were being sarcastic haha! But then i finished the read, and then i understood haha! (Never smoked in my life)
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sun May 27, 2012 2:21 am

    Yeah, that's totally me. Survival horror is totally my default genre too, so usually there's terrifying noises and the sounds of bad voice acting accompanying all that.

    I'm trying to quit but it's really hard. They say that nicotine is more addictive than heroin. Take it from a recovering addict, it's absolutely true. I've tried pretty much everything and I can't seem to kick the habit. Just trying to continue to remind myself that if I don't I can say goodbye to all my dreams of high altitude climbing.
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    Post by Tolvo Sun May 27, 2012 2:23 am

    Well there are multiple things like those patches, though I have never used them. They cost a bit don't they though? And you can still end up addicted to those.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 2:27 am

    My dad tried quitting chewing by getting the nicotine gum. Didnt work. As soom as be overheard me telling my mom that i lost a lot of respect for him, he quit cold turkey. Moody as heck, and still can be, but he just chews normal gum. Btw, i was like 14 when i said that. I didnt know how hard it is to quit until i tried to quit watching porn. Im so glad i dont have an addictive personality
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sun May 27, 2012 2:27 am

    Well if I get prescriptions to any of that stuff than my health insurance will cover it. So far I've tried the patches, which didn't do a thing for me, and made me experience the weirdest drug side effect I've ever experienced, the gum, which made my mouth constantly taste like a foot and also didn't really work, and the pills, which made me disfunctional in a way you don't want to be as a single guy.

    Is there something wrong with porn now? Did I miss another meeting?
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 2:32 am

    It can be controversial, but it messes with commitment. Same effect as having sex with a lot of women before getting married, and ive seen both porn before a marriage and during a marriage destroy the marriage. And ive definitely seen having sex with different women destroy a marriage, and obviously sex with other women during a marriage usually ruins it. (Before amos mentions his threesome experiences haha, i said "usually")
    I also try to keep "alone time" (who knows when a girl will read this) to less than twice a week.
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    Post by PlasticandRage Sun May 27, 2012 2:42 am

    Sounds to me like you're dating the wrong women. Gotta find one that watches it with you. Seriously though, that's like saying fantasizing about another woman is cheating. No man on earth has that kind of sense of will. I've been desperately, madly, all encompassingly in love before, and I still fantasized about other woman sometimes. My fidelity was unshakable too. I don't believe in cheating in fact, I think it's a form of the ultimate betrayal of a relationship. I still watched porn sometimes though. She knew I did too, and didn't care at all. I'm pretty sure she did sometimes too.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 2:48 am

    It aint the fantasizing as it is the spiritual and chemical aspects of sex and self induced orgasms that can lead to problems. Plus, i just dont feel right after. Never have. Not guilt. Just that if im gonna be doing this, should i really be looking and imagining a stranger? I gave it a lot of thought, and ive been clean for over a year and a half now. Idk the exact day, but i just took it one day at a time. Cause one thing i learned when it comes to quitting, looking back doesnt usually help. At least, not for me haha! Id think about how long itd been, and "one time wouldnt hurt. I could go another two weeks clean, no prob. Im not addicted"

    I just didnt believe it was right for me, personally as well. You guys know my personality. Nuff said, really haha!
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    Post by Tolvo Sun May 27, 2012 3:33 am

    PlasticandRage wrote:Sounds to me like you're dating the wrong women. Gotta find one that watches it with you. Seriously though, that's like saying fantasizing about another woman is cheating. No man on earth has that kind of sense of will. I've been desperately, madly, all encompassingly in love before, and I still fantasized about other woman sometimes. My fidelity was unshakable too. I don't believe in cheating in fact, I think it's a form of the ultimate betrayal of a relationship. I still watched porn sometimes though. She knew I did too, and didn't care at all. I'm pretty sure she did sometimes too.

    Well seeing as 99% of American men when asked if they masturbate by their doctors say they have, and 85% of women admit to doing so to their doctors, it's a safe bet she engaged in self pleasure in some form.

    Or for a more credible source one could watch Married with Children.
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    Post by Jorund Sun May 27, 2012 4:39 am

    Hi, guys. Pretty new around here, and glad I found this thread. I've just been extremely depressed lately. Especially tonight. My girlfriend and I were fighting, and I have to be up early and I just can't sleep and I'm kinda just stressing out over lots of stuff. I figure there's no one around right now, but thought posting might just help.

    I'm going to college right now at BYU in Idaho with my girlfriend of just over a year. I'm 19, paying for college myself, yadda yadda yadda. Money's been getting to me bad lately, especially with the girlfriend. I hate not having much of it because I love doing things for her and whatnot. I know there's plenty of cheap or free stuff to do, but I guess that's just not my personality. I write for her sometimes, though.

    And, well, I dunno. I feel a little awkward talking about this on here, but we fight sometimes because I've made some really piss-poor damn awful mistakes in our relationship. Not cheating or anything, mind you, but I feel awful even thinking about what I did, especially after what it did to our relationship.

    Long story short, I was talking to my ex before her behind her back because I was still kind of friends with her (we ended on a good note) and when she found out she was pretty upset. And, well, I didn't know it really was such a big deal the first time, but then it actually happened a second and third time. The third time was this past winter. January, I think. I haven't really screwed up like that since. I've been doing everything I can. I just want to make things right, and I'm doing my best. She just tells me that she thinks about it every day, and that she feels like it's supposed to be getting better but she thinks it just gets worse. I don't know what to do. I think we had our fight tonight just because she was having a bad day overall (that kind of tends to happen sometimes--usually both of us happy as can be, but one bad day and all of this comes up again, even if the bad day isn't seemingly related.)

    But like I said, where our conversation ended tonight just left me really depressed and upset and I couldn't sleep. I feel a little better after writing this post, so I might go for bed hopefully now. Glad this was here. Thanks, guys.
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    Post by Digitalyzed Sun May 27, 2012 4:51 am

    Hey there Jorund, nice to see you on the forums.

    I can, in a way, understand what you're going through. Ending a conversation with someone you care about can play hell with your emotions if it ends on a negative note. If your girlfriend is getting annoyed because you're talking to your ex (Even just as friends), it is probably with good reason. It's just human nature to think the worst of people, and so in times like this, you have to prove her wrong by staying loyal to her and being the best boyfriend you can. Maybe you could arrange to see a movie, or just have dinner with her (Myabe cook up something decent). If you can dedicate yourself to her and just surprise her once in a while with acts of kindness, then she'll hopefully realise you're a good guy and that you have no intention of cheating on her or anything like that. It is perfectly within your rights to keep talking to your ex, but it's within hers to expect the worst to come out of it. Also, you shuld let her know that you plan on talking to your ex, so she knows it's going on. If she can't accept that, then I'll leave what you do up to you.

    Sorry if that's not too helpful, I normally tend to help with other things.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Sun May 27, 2012 8:27 am

    What he said. And glad you found this thread
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sun May 27, 2012 8:34 am

    Yarxov wrote:@joe, I could go on and on about how if people really care religion shouldnt matter and how children should* as human beings be allowed to decide for themselves. But I won't.
    And if you think you're serious for 17, me and my girlfriend are only 15, but are about as serious as your mentality. (And holy **** are the odds stacked against us, but we both are dedicated and serious about our relationship so I think we might be able to last.)

    I must say i'm disappointed that you would lead someone on like that, but its your decision.

    Dude - it likely will work out - Me and Natalia went against the odds, I have been dating her since 13 and now 5 years later she is my fiancee and we are engaged. silly
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 12:30 pm

    Jorund wrote:Hi, guys. Pretty new around here, and glad I found this thread. I've just been extremely depressed lately. Especially tonight. My girlfriend and I were fighting, and I have to be up early and I just can't sleep and I'm kinda just stressing out over lots of stuff. I figure there's no one around right now, but thought posting might just help.

    I'm going to college right now at BYU in Idaho with my girlfriend of just over a year. I'm 19, paying for college myself, yadda yadda yadda. Money's been getting to me bad lately, especially with the girlfriend. I hate not having much of it because I love doing things for her and whatnot. I know there's plenty of cheap or free stuff to do, but I guess that's just not my personality. I write for her sometimes, though.

    And, well, I dunno. I feel a little awkward talking about this on here, but we fight sometimes because I've made some really piss-poor damn awful mistakes in our relationship. Not cheating or anything, mind you, but I feel awful even thinking about what I did, especially after what it did to ou.r relationship.

    Long story short, I was talking to my ex before her behind her back because I was still kind of friends with her (we ended on a good note) and when she found out she was pretty upset. And, well, I didn't know it really was such a big deal the first time, but then it actually happened a second and third time. The third time was this past winter. January, I think. I haven't really screwed up like that since. I've been doing everything I can. I just want to make things right, and I'm doing my best. She just tells me that she thinks about it every day, and that she feels like it's supposed to be getting better but she thinks it just gets worse. I don't know what to do. I think we had our fight tonight just because she was having a bad day overall (that kind of tends to happen sometimes--usually both of us happy as can be, but one bad day and all of this comes up again, even if the bad day isn't seemingly related.)

    But like I said, where our conversation ended tonight just left me really depressed and upset and I couldn't sleep. I feel a little better after writing this post, so I might go for bed hopefully now. Glad this was here. Thanks, guys.
    Giving relationship advice is hard, even for the people still in one (like Amos's threesome comment on my thread haha!), but all i have to say right now is that we're here for you, man. We may not know how to solve your problems, but we'll listen to them.
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    Post by Jorund Sun May 27, 2012 3:30 pm

    Thanks for your responses, guys. Still felt pretty terrible this morning, went to church, talked to her about it some more, and then the same thing as always happened.

    She just said, "Can we please just drop this now."

    So we do. At least until the next time this happens.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 3:36 pm

    Moved to PM
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    Post by Digitalyzed Sun May 27, 2012 4:22 pm

    Well it seems Joe is trying to help, but if you want any advice (I can try) or just someone to talk to, just PM me.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 6:50 pm

    New thing came up for me. this is a copy paste of a new Off Topic thread I made.

    It always sucks to know that you weren't good enough for a girl you wanted to be with, but then you find out that she found someone who was. There's always that "oh, i'm happy for her" thing, but I didn't get to that stage of liking her. So screw that. I just wanted to be hers and her to be mine. And now some other guy gets that. I just saw "In relationship with" blah blah blah Mr Pooperson Ugly Man on facebook.

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    Post by Jorund Sun May 27, 2012 7:06 pm

    I know that feeling all too well, Joe. And I've been in your shoes before, what with being a 17 year old romantic and all. Trust me, you will move on and find someone later and realize it's better that way. I know it sucks to hear that sometimes, though. Just try and give yourself some time, but don't be afraid to get out there and just casual date around.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 7:09 pm

    Jorund wrote:I know that feeling all too well, Joe. And I've been in your shoes before, what with being a 17 year old romantic and all. Trust me, you will move on and find someone later and realize it's better that way. I know it sucks to hear that sometimes, though. Just try and give yourself some time, but don't be afraid to get out there and just casual date around.
    I can't do casual. I tried to with Macey. I ended up getting carried away and scaring her away. *shakes head*
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    Post by Digitalyzed Sun May 27, 2012 7:09 pm

    JoeBroski09 wrote:New thing came up for me. this is a copy paste of a new Off Topic thread I made.

    It always sucks to know that you weren't good enough for a girl you wanted to be with, but then you find out that she found someone who was. There's always that "oh, i'm happy for her" thing, but I didn't get to that stage of liking her. So screw that. I just wanted to be hers and her to be mine. And now some other guy gets that. I just saw "In relationship with" blah blah blah Mr Pooperson Ugly Man on facebook.

    Three words:
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    Trust me man, if she's in a relationship with someone who's personality and attitude you despise, she's not the kind of girl you want to be with. Don't be afraid to still love her though, as we all have to put our emotions on the line sometimes, and one day we all get our hearts broken.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 7:11 pm

    Digitalyzed wrote:
    JoeBroski09 wrote:New thing came up for me. this is a copy paste of a new Off Topic thread I made.

    It always sucks to know that you weren't good enough for a girl you wanted to be with, but then you find out that she found someone who was. There's always that "oh, i'm happy for her" thing, but I didn't get to that stage of liking her. So screw that. I just wanted to be hers and her to be mine. And now some other guy gets that. I just saw "In relationship with" blah blah blah Mr Pooperson Ugly Man on facebook.

    Three words:
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    Trust me man, if she's in a relationship with someone who's personality and attitude you despise, she's not the kind of girl you want to be with. Don't be afraid to still love her though, as we all have to put our emotions on the line sometimes, and one day we all get our hearts broken.
    Idk the guy. He may be a great guy, but he'll always be the guy who got to be with her when I couldn't. *shakes head* it's just that there isn't anything about her that I don't like. I can't focus on something about her and say "yea, I guess I didn't want to be in that relationship" because there wasn't. I don't fall for a girl if there is anything like that in the first place.
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    Post by Digitalyzed Sun May 27, 2012 7:18 pm

    Then what else can you do but move on?

    It may just be my opinion, but for a relationship to work properly there must be things about the other person that are imperfect or that you disagree with. That way you always have a goal when with them - To accept them for who they are and grow to love the things that you previously disliked. Admittedly, traits such as being a slut, or manky, or just one of those annoying emos who calls themself "random" (Maybe only I hate that), are not things you want to be in a relationship with, but you still have to find something to work towards.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun May 27, 2012 7:22 pm

    Digitalyzed wrote:Then what else can you do but move on?

    It may just be my opinion, but for a relationship to work properly there must be things about the other person that are imperfect or that you disagree with. That way you always have a goal when with them - To accept them for who they are and grow to love the things that you previously disliked. Admittedly, traits such as being a slut, or manky, or just one of those annoying emos who calls themself "random" (Maybe only I hate that), are not things you want to be in a relationship with, but you still have to find something to work towards.
    I tried this. She's now my ex. Idk for sure if that one experience would encompass all experiences, but when it comes to the "falling" for the girl, I gottah KNOW that if it ever ended, it would be on her side. Because if there's any doubt in my mind that it wouldn't work out, then I'm just lying to her and myself by being in the relationship. I'm sure there'd be things that'd show in both the girls I've thought were "perfect," but they weren't things I noticed immediately and tried to ignore. Because, with those girls, if the relationship ever happened, I'd be 100% invested in it, and that's exactly what it takes for a relationship to succeed.

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