Is the sword of Artorias(uncursed) really strong?

Just want you guys opinion

after SL 140, yes

Carphil wrote:after SL 140, yes

Does the sword have anything to do with scaling humanities?

SlayerOfThe4Kings wrote:

Carphil wrote:after SL 140, yes

Does the sword have anything to do with scaling humanities?

No, I think it scales best with Int and Faith

FrEyes wrote:

SlayerOfThe4Kings wrote:

Carphil wrote:after SL 140, yes

Does the sword have anything to do with scaling humanities?

No, I think it scales best with Int and Faith

Doesn't the sword do the most damage when it's up against undeads?

Thats caused by divine aux effect.

FrEyes wrote:Thats caused by divine aux effect.

Is it true the sword's attack points can go up to 1000 with the right scaling?

SlayerOfThe4Kings wrote:

FrEyes wrote:Thats caused by divine aux effect.

Is it true the sword's attack points can go up to 1000 with the right scaling?

No I think not http://tinyurl.com/d769lnv

You can actually end up doing more damage with the cursed version because of the split damage on uncursed.

See http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=318358734
The cursed version is a pretty good weapon. Has slightly longer reach then the claymore and some other great swords. It just requires some wasted stat points.
And it cant be buffed which is a pity. Whether of not the slight AR increase is worth it is up to you.

Having a character with all 45's on its scaling stats I would say it is a trap. just pick up the MLGS or a +15 flamberge/claymore MLGS does straight magic damage which is nice and flamberge/claymore can be buffed which makes them more powerful easily with less stats invested.

dancash1808 wrote:Having a character with all 45's on its scaling stats I would say it is a trap. just pick up the MLGS or a +15 flamberge/claymore MLGS does straight magic damage which is nice and flamberge/claymore can be buffed which makes them more powerful easily with less stats invested.

Would the Black knight axe be better than the MLGS, if wanting for a faster kill? Just wondering because I see many people use Black knight axe. The axe does pretty good damage and its pretty fast to swing than the Dragon Great Sword. Is it because of its ridiculously long reach and quickness? :shock: :shock:

SlayerOfThe4Kings wrote:

dancash1808 wrote:Having a character with all 45's on its scaling stats I would say it is a trap. just pick up the MLGS or a +15 flamberge/claymore MLGS does straight magic damage which is nice and flamberge/claymore can be buffed which makes them more powerful easily with less stats invested.

Would the Black knight axe be better than the MLGS, if wanting for a faster kill? Just wondering because I see many people use Black knight axe.Is it because of its ridiculously long reach and quickness? :shock: :shock:

I would say yes. BkGA is a good weapon with very high AR and a quickness that outshines a lot of stuff. I think it is easy to play with and that's why it is so popular. And with the Ar so high back stabs really punish.

Black knights great axe is powerful. however things that I should mention.
If you use its jumping attack you are wide open. and because it is so widely used the parry window is second nature to some PvP'ers (I'm not quite that good but its moveset has no surprises really.)
I would rather the MLGS because it goes through most shields quite nicely. and it is one of the few one type non physical damage weapons. (less range than the BKGA about equal in terms of stunlocking but it has ranged attacks and only requires one stat to scale)

dancash1808 wrote:Black knights great axe is powerful. however things that I should mention.
If you use its jumping attack you are wide open. and because it is so widely used the parry window is second nature to some PvP'ers (I'm not quite that good but its moveset has no surprises really.)
I would rather the MLGS because it goes through most shields quite nicely. and it is one of the few one type non physical damage weapons. (less range than the BKGA about equal in terms of stunlocking but it has ranged attacks and only requires one stat to scale)

ah yes the Magic Beam

Indeed. magic beams are great for PvE if you can rest at a bonfire and repair regularly. PvP I find they work on people once before they get wise. I like to do it as they rush in.

dancash1808 wrote:Indeed. magic beams are great for PvE if you can rest at a bonfire and repair regularly. PvP I find they work on people once before they get wise. I like to do it as they rush in.

I use the (two handed)magic beam when Im up against 2 or 3 phantoms. Knocks them right down hehe. Then I use the one handed magic beam when my opponents are running away from me

Running away is just plain silly. it invites a backstab :') (just waiting for the day when someone baits me by running and switches to a halberd and destroys me xD)

dancash1808 wrote:Running away is just plain silly. it invites a backstab :') (just waiting for the day when someone baits me by running and switches to a halberd and destroys me xD)

I know it invites a back stab but it's hard when your opponent can just cartwheel all the way so I just magic beam them(more funner also )Somebody baited me before I never even saw it.

It cant outdo other +15 weapons at NG3(upwards) as it has split AR which reduces it's damage. Good thing is, is it's good good scaling. I mean C, C ,C ,C that is really good only if it had more base damage.

The Greatsword of Artorias, both cursed and divine version, requires specials builds to work. In the right hands, this sword becomes one of the greatest weapons in the game, however, if you like handling easy and overused weapons, this sword is not for you.

My build for the divine version: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2767108177980879

With 30 faith and 30 inteligence, the cursed version would do about 120 or 150 more damage

SL 167 giving you 577 damage.
one better alternative. no split damage and magic damage is usually less well defended. http://tinyurl.com/7bmb8ns although it has less overall damage it should do more.
second alternative http://tinyurl.com/886z4ke
you lose out on spellcasting but no split damage. in reality I would take a ton of points of strength and put them into getting a buff but it shows that it simply is not worth it.

if you insisted on using it. http://tinyurl.com/6tt8f2l 2 hand it for 40 effective strength.

SlayerOfThe4Kings wrote:

dancash1808 wrote:Having a character with all 45's on its scaling stats I would say it is a trap. just pick up the MLGS or a +15 flamberge/claymore MLGS does straight magic damage which is nice and flamberge/claymore can be buffed which makes them more powerful easily with less stats invested.

Would the Black knight axe be better than the MLGS, if wanting for a faster kill? Just wondering because I see many people use Black knight axe. The axe does pretty good damage and its pretty fast to swing than the Dragon Great Sword. Is it because of its ridiculously long reach and quickness? :shock: :shock:

I would stay away from the black knight great axe. Using that weapon is asking for a riposte.

Carphil wrote:The Greatsword of Artorias, both cursed and divine version, requires specials builds to work. In the right hands, this sword becomes one of the greatest weapons in the game, however, if you like handling easy and overused weapons, this sword is not for you.

My build for the divine version: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2767108177980879

With 30 faith and 30 inteligence, the cursed version would do about 120 or 150 more damage

Great info Man!

dancash1808 wrote:Black knights great axe is powerful. however things that I should mention.
If you use its jumping attack you are wide open. and because it is so widely used the parry window is second nature to some PvP'ers (I'm not quite that good but its moveset has no surprises really.)
I would rather the MLGS because it goes through most shields quite nicely. and it is one of the few one type non physical damage weapons. (less range than the BKGA about equal in terms of stunlocking but it has ranged attacks and only requires one stat to scale)

With the bkga dead angleing is the answer to both turtle and parry hounds. The bkga is really good at it too.