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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:24 am

    DoughGuy wrote:@Billy I say FC rules during the fight, that'll give a good duel. Then in the second fight we can use lifehunter arena rules to mix it up a bit.
    those terms are accepted, shall we say best of 3 for clarity FC rules LH rules, then final battle will be lawless
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:26 am

    Agreed. I will see you there.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:34 am

    Slander, you've no proof of your claims. I am only bound to my oaths in the painted world. When I meet the guilty outside the painted world, I do my duty, wether they are a Lifehunter or not.

    The gods imprisoned my Lady out of fear, and right they were to fear her power, but she understands that fear, and willingly remains, sheltering others like herself. Outcasts without homes. There is no evil in my actions, nor good in yours.

    You are Ignorant and misguided. Judging that which you do not understand.

    You claim to serve the gods, yet you do not know the will of the god beneath your feet.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:40 am

    i wish to speak with wyrm when he arrives there is much we need to discuss
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:46 am

    You have to be kidding me. i closed the wrong window and lost my speech. Give me a minute.
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:49 am

    I have the words of the lost sentinels, and your on words to back up my claims. Or do you suggest your own words cannot be trusted? You allow your home to be a haven for sinners and heretics? How could a true servant of justice allow that to happen? Your inaction is proof of your weakness.

    Your queen fled the world of man and gods, she exiled herself rather than attempt to fae them, be strong and convince them. She has made herself the enemy. She shelters the horrors of the world, prolongs their suffering by allowing them to live and giving them false hope.

    By labelling the knights such you only prove how much those traits apply to yourself.

    I serve gods worthy of worship.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:51 am

    DoughGuy wrote:I have the words of the lost sentinels, and your on words to back up my claims. Or do you suggest your own words cannot be trusted? You allow your home to be a haven for sinners and heretics? How could a true servant of justice allow that to happen? Your inaction is proof of your weakness.

    Your queen fled the world of man and gods, she exiled herself rather than attempt to fae them, be strong and convince them. She has made herself the enemy. She shelters the horrors of the world, prolongs their suffering by allowing them to live and giving them false hope.

    By labelling the knights such you only prove how much those traits apply to yourself.

    I serve gods worthy of worship.

    no god is worthy of our worship.......they should worship us
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    Post by dancash1808 Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:59 am

    DoughGuy wrote:
    Your queen fled the world of man and gods, she exiled herself rather than attempt to fae them, be strong and convince them. She has made herself the enemy. She shelters the horrors of the world, prolongs their suffering by allowing them to live and giving them false hope.
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    I am sorry this argument falls down badly. either she is an abomination in which case she is simply looking out for herself and others in a cruel world. or she is not an abomination in which case your attack was unprovoked. unless you are suggesting that abominations are redeemable in which case the hope she gives to others is not false.
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 am

    Dan stop bringing logic into this!
    Also Im not attacking her for being an abomination. Im attacking her for attacking the gods.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:06 am

    dough is that all can you do blindly follow
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:13 am

    No, I can blindly lead too. ^Also that aruments falls through as the same thing can be applied to Forum.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:16 am

    at least im honest about my intentions
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    Post by dancash1808 Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:18 am

    DoughGuy wrote: ^Also that aruments falls through as the same thing can be applied to Forum.

    Sorry , mine?
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:18 am

    As am I. Its just everyone opposes me so no one believes me.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:21 am

    why do you follow the gods....why not forge your own destiny?
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    Post by dancash1808 Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:21 am

    I disagree, I dont oppose you necessarily I am just observing. and do you not have a fairly large covenant behind you?
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:26 am

    I have 20 active knights and 5 MIA.
    @Billy Why does Forum follo Pris? because he believes it is the right thing to do.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:29 am

    You have words do you? So, when I call you a wretch, it becomes true just because I said it? I'll get other to say it one isn't enough.

    She did not exile herself, she was exiled at birth, and the painted world formed around her. It took more strength than you can know to continue to choose life when death would end the sorrow, the pain of loneliness. That she chose to dedicate herself to ending that pain for others, while she must endure it is her true strength. And its more than you have, for you would kill them, force their death rather than even see such pain, let alone feel it.

    Who are you to decide what life is worthy? Last I checked you were human. tortureous as my life may be much of the time, it is mine, and I will decide wether or not I wish to endure for what happiness I have. Everyone is free to make this same choice. Our hope is not false, our hope is the hope for happiness, for a place to belong. We have that here.

    You worship the gods then? Which gods? Gwyn, who would cast the world into the dark? Velka, the goddess of sin, mistress of the dark moons? Gwynvere, not seen since ages past? Gwyndolyn, leader of the darkmoons? If you worship any of these, what are their wills? I've met my god, I speak with him. Would he not tell me were he displeased? To betray him is to be guilty, and I'm not in the book. So my god either approves of, or has no opinion on my actions on my ladys behalf. Can you say the same?

    Several of your "noble knights" are in the book, did you know that? For their crimes I am to kill them. How does that make you better? Allowing sinners, those who harm the very people you claim to protect, into your ranks.

    I have an agreement, which I honor so that I may have a home. If agreeing to the terms were wrong, I'd be in the book.
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:39 am

    I hae the words of men of honour, and i have your own words. Words of men I trust to say truth. How do you know how the painted world was made? How your queen ended up there? Did she tell you how with her own words? How do you know to trust them?

    You have made your choice and my knights have made theirs. We made opposite choices. Only one of us can be right and that will be the victor.

    Gwyn, lord of sunlight, who led humanity from the darkness to the light. To the god of war, who showed even the gods can be human with their mistakes, and showed us to trust in ourselves. To Fina, who loves and protection shlter and protect many knights, And to the other gods who I represent, who keep the light.

    My knights are in a book written by a god who hides himself from the world proclaiming himself god of justice? Why do you trust in his words? How can you be sure he is making the right choices, punishing those who deserve it.


    That took surprisingly long to write. I kept getting into positions where I contradicted myself.
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:41 am

    ^^ Reminds me of the demon's back in Boletaria - you are just like Garl, corrupt and protecting someone whose intentions may be noble - but she also kills many people, think of this. Would she need a hunting force to kill all trespassers upon the painted world if she was as innocent as you say - btw this is Natalia.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:43 am

    it all comes down to this, you are either with them or against them......the dark is rising you must all pick a side
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:00 am

    Honorable men? In the book of the guilty?
    You knights are in a book written by Velka, the goddess of sin.

    Gwyn would have darkness fall.

    The god of war isn't a god. If you really worshipped Gwyn you would support Gwyns recindance of his status and wouldn't venerate him.

    Fina? who grant blessings in the form of mediocre armor and a ring? Both of which can be stolen? How are you to know she even exsists?

    I trust in my gods because I see the actions of those I hunt. Murderers and rapists. Bandits.

    I do not follow blindly, I witness the actions of the people I hunt, I see their sins, and remove them, as they deserve.


    Why would she not need protectors? Every leader has enemies. Leaving oneself open to attack is folly.

    Again, you claim my god hides, but I've met him. Have you met fina? How about your "god of war", has he revealed himself? Gwyn, you met him? You don't realise his intent, so I doubt it somehow.


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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:09 am

    See now your applying in game logic to a metagame concept (I think thats the right word). My knight is from Astora, and the knights that follow him are from all over the land. If the Carim gods are real he would know knights that have met them. He would have met Fina and the other gods. How would you have met Gwyn? How can you be sure of that my knight knows the god of wars history? besides I alrady addressed that las tone. Like I said he showed what it is to be human, to make mistakes.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 am

    By your logic, how can anyone be sure of anything? How are you to know gods inhabit the mortal relm outside of lordan?

    God are not human. Thus they cannot demonstrate what it is to be human. How are you to know that fallen gods become human? What logic dictates that?

    Bah fine then simple deductive reasoning. Gwyn could kindle the fire as he has before, yet he hasn't and his knights attack on sight. If he wished the light to continue, why has he not kindled the fire himself, and why do his knights attack those who would do it for him?
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    Post by DoughGuy Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:49 am

    Its very likely they do. Fina is in Carim along with Flann and Gwynevere plus any other of the old gods.

    You dont have to be something to demonstrate what it is to be that.

    If the god of war isnt human then what is he?

    What do you mean kindle the fire? He relit it and keeps it lit through drawing humanity through his knights. Im not sure what your saying.

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