The Noble Knights (Maxed thread 4)

But the yanks wont be on till its nearly over...

I'm back from camp! Give me a recap of everything from this thread since last Sunday.

Chi got promoted and got a title. We had a war. You owe me a pic of you in a fez STILL.

well nice working with you all *runs out with all of your weapons.*

*throws my DSS through Dans back. Runs up and retrieves all the weapons.*

Hey! no fair I did say ALL your weapons and that thing definitely counts.

You think I let go of this thing

Yes. :roll: when I have stolen it. either that or your getting dragged along the floor by its hilt

bahaha, you ain't got my weapons (seeing as I'm MIA, though that gives contingency issues as I'm chatting to the clan now...)

anyhoooo, how did our lads fare against the wanker covs?

Well ... on a 1 to 1 basis (with not all the scores in) atm is us 165ish them 204. But thats with co-os worth 1. With them worth 2 its 215 vs 204.

Well why would coops be worth 1? We discussed this a lot and the time it takes to do one means it needs to be more (personally 3 is more like it for me due to time lapse), but 2 is more reasonable...

Seriously, if I get only 1 point for a 20 minute coop escorting an idiot, simply not worth it when your opponents can just PvP at least 3-4 invasions in that time :|

I'm going to put in a checkpoint system that will balance the points, thus menaing longer co-ops are worth more, yet still encouraging you to go faster. E.g. Getting ot the first fog gate, 1 point. Killing jeremiah and clearinghis area, 1 point. Turning the lever underneath to open the door to Pris, 1 point. Clearing the annex (gettig the ember, the miracle and the painting set) 1 point. Killing Pris, 1 point. So overall one co-op can be wirth up to 5 points. You can skip the annex to d othe level faster but you dont get the point. It also removes the problem of peole putting their sign on the bridge if co-ops were worth like 3, and doing them fast for little time.

If you had done that for the other war we would have won by a country mile. I got 20 then but based on that I would have probs got like 60

Yeah for this war i think I would have averaged 4 points a co-op. And I had 21.

Only problem ive seen with the points system is, its very hard to proove your points Ive duing mass invasion events ive easily racked up 500+ plus points while others have barely hit 100 so its kinda have to take things on good faith aye

Haha fed and I were discussing that yesterday. Its hard to believe you can get a few hundred, even winning every fight, in the time you claim too. But its an honesty thing, and if you're cheating then you are missing the point of the event.

Serious_Much wrote:Well why would coops be worth 1? We discussed this a lot and the time it takes to do one means it needs to be more (personally 3 is more like it for me due to time lapse), but 2 is more reasonable...

Seriously, if I get only 1 point for a 20 minute coop escorting an idiot, simply not worth it when your opponents can just PvP at least 3-4 invasions in that time :|

Yes and i hope this was implemented before, especially my coop in the first PW war when i get almost all of my medals needed to ranks up. Also, when I am escorting and i am the only one summoned, it is hard while the other team is just killing.

whitechikz11 wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Well why would coops be worth 1? We discussed this a lot and the time it takes to do one means it needs to be more (personally 3 is more like it for me due to time lapse), but 2 is more reasonable...

Seriously, if I get only 1 point for a 20 minute coop escorting an idiot, simply not worth it when your opponents can just PvP at least 3-4 invasions in that time :|

Yes and i hope this was implemented before, especially my coop in the first PW war when i get almost all of my medals needed to ranks up. Also, when I am escorting and i am the only one summoned, it is hard while the other team is just killing.

You're a commander.. You don't say things like 'hard', you say that points system is misrepresenting your input to the war. Act more.. commanding man! (P.S. Also the other team weren't klling, they were slaughtering defenceless innocents )

Serious_Much wrote:

whitechikz11 wrote:

Serious_Much wrote:Well why would coops be worth 1? We discussed this a lot and the time it takes to do one means it needs to be more (personally 3 is more like it for me due to time lapse), but 2 is more reasonable...

Seriously, if I get only 1 point for a 20 minute coop escorting an idiot, simply not worth it when your opponents can just PvP at least 3-4 invasions in that time :|

Yes and i hope this was implemented before, especially my coop in the first PW war when i get almost all of my medals needed to ranks up. Also, when I am escorting and i am the only one summoned, it is hard while the other team is just killing.

You're a commander.. You don't say things like 'hard', you say that points system is misrepresenting your input to the war. Act more.. commanding man! (P.S. Also the other team weren't klling, they were slaughtering defenceless innocents )

lol it is when i am still in the process of ranking up, well then the point system is misrepresenting my input to the war and it is easy when escorting a host while the other team is just slaughtering defenseless innocents

A bit more rewording was needed, but you got the gist of it

DoughGuy wrote:Haha fed and I were discussing that yesterday. Its hard to believe you can get a few hundred, even winning every fight, in the time you claim too. But its an honesty thing, and if you're cheating then you are missing the point of the event.

well fed has fought my Darkstalker, both in a 2v1 with O+S and as a GS during the catacombs so he knows its a powerul build and can kill within 3 good blows or one BS

billy_bayonet wrote:

DoughGuy wrote:Haha fed and I were discussing that yesterday. Its hard to believe you can get a few hundred, even winning every fight, in the time you claim too. But its an honesty thing, and if you're cheating then you are missing the point of the event.

well fed has fought my Darkstalker, both in a 2v1 with O+S and as a GS during the catacombs so he knows its a powerul build and can kill within 3 good blows or one BS

My doubts about the legitimacy of outrageously high scores come from how hard it is to find enough opponents. I have no doubt you or Amos can win 99% of your invasions, I don't see how you can get the opportunity to score 500, 1000, or 1337 points when you consider time spent waiting for invasions and time spent tracking down hosts once you invade. I was on for at least half the last war and scored 79, and I won most of my invasions so if I'd won them all and killed every phantom before the host I maybe could of had 150 points. If I had kept that up for 24 hours straight I could have potentially gotten 300. This was with relatively quick turn around between invasions. So I just don't see how you can even get the opportunity to score 1000 or more.

Federally wrote:

billy_bayonet wrote:

DoughGuy wrote:Haha fed and I were discussing that yesterday. Its hard to believe you can get a few hundred, even winning every fight, in the time you claim too. But its an honesty thing, and if you're cheating then you are missing the point of the event.

well fed has fought my Darkstalker, both in a 2v1 with O+S and as a GS during the catacombs so he knows its a powerul build and can kill within 3 good blows or one BS

My doubts about the legitimacy of outrageously high scores come from how hard it is to find enough opponents. I have no doubt you or Amos can win 99% of your invasions, I don't see how you can get the opportunity to score 500, 1000, or 1337 points when you consider time spent waiting for invasions and time spent tracking down hosts once you invade. I was on for at least half the last war and scored 79, and I won most of my invasions so if I'd won them all and killed every phantom before the host I maybe could of had 150 points. If I had kept that up for 24 hours straight I could have potentially gotten 300. This was with relatively quick turn around between invasions. So I just don't see how you can even get the opportunity to score 1000 or more.

And I'm almost with you all the time, supporting this

I agree guys. I mean when I participated for like 5-6 hours in PW war 1. I completed about.. 20 coops. I respect the fact that it's faster to invade than coop and the skill level of many means they win the vast majority of them, but I don't see how getting 1000 points is possible when there will be the odd one that takes so long..

Let's say.. A host is worth 1 and each sunbro 2. You get about 3 points per invasion win on average. You'd have to make about 334 successful invasions and then that's still getting 14 successful invasions an hour.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to stay up for a whole day getting more than 1 successful invasion every 5 mins, it's pretty unlikely at the best of times.

Serious_Much wrote:I agree guys. I mean when I participated for like 5-6 hours in PW war 1. I completed about.. 20 coops. I respect the fact that it's faster to invade than coop and the skill level of many means they win the vast majority of them, but I don't see how getting 1000 points is possible when there will be the odd one that takes so long..

Let's say.. A host is worth 1 and each sunbro 2. You get about 3 points per invasion win on average. You'd have to make about 334 successful invasions and then that's still getting 14 successful invasions an hour.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to stay up for a whole day getting more than 1 successful invasion every 5 mins, it's pretty unlikely at the best of times.

Heck, on the 8 or so hours of war I've spent invading in the PW, I have run across phantoms maybe 5 times. I could never even get close, especially when more then 1/10th of the people hide in an out of the way spot to try to ambush me...