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by Rynn Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:04 amI hate 3 weapons in this game. Just 3.
I hate the Dragon Slayer Spear, it's got too high of a range for it's damage/abilities. You can turtle behind it, use a projectile attack, etc etc. Fortunately the stat requirements are so high, I rarely see it. This weapon is, admittedly, just hated because it kills me a lot.
Then I hate the black knight great axe. This is an axe somewhat similar in functionality to the Hand Axe. It's an axe style weapon that has a different, faster moveset. Now, the way they balanced the handaxe was that it removes less poise per hit then the normal axes. The developers however seem to have done -nothing- to balance this weapon. It still takes 77 poise to not be stunned by a 2 handed hit (which can easily stunlock), it's 1 handed attacks hit a bit more then a 180 degree area, and it's 2 handed attacks hit -behind- the player, so you becomes difficult to backstab. Of the weapons I hate, this weapon is the easiest to fight, despite being completely overpowered, it suffers from a functionality error I'd label as "So predictable I'll blind parry with my fist".
The last weapon I hate is the Washing Pole. I can not stress enough how... silly this weapon is. First off, the range... but secondly, it's -damage-. The washing pole is by far the most prevalent of the weapons I hate, you can find them all throughout the kiln... in the hands of every second or third darkmoon you fight. This weapon is nearly always buffed with DMB immediately, and then it can kill you in 2 hits, while having range rivaling most spears...
You know, that actually sounds fun. I gotta admit, I'm a biased judge, if I think something is overpowered, there is usually 2 leading factors to my statement.
1: I get killed by it a lot, generally by players I feel are genuinely less skilled then me. I don't feel this is a game where your weapon should be doing the work for you, and if I know that had I been using the same weapon, I'd beat you 9/10 times, I start questioning the legitlimacy of a weapons balance.
2: After I get killed enough times, I start thinking about it, and I start deciding if this is just something I'm inexperienced at fighting (For example, spears and rapiers used to kill me a lot, and I didn't like the weapon class at all... but I learned how to fight them after concluding a majority of the spears and rapiers really suck, unless you're backstabbing with them.)... if I feel I can gather up too many pro's, and not enough cons, then I feel I have a viable, but most likely biased basis for calling something overpowered, and will at least privately accuse it of being such.
So both the Dragonslayer Spear and the Washing Pole really remain to me as weapons that are overpowered, the BKGA is really quite managable compared to the two, and my only problem with dealing with it... is I've never seen it used outside the hands of gankers, and as such, they are backstabbing whores... I don't think it's actually a good weapon, it just could have used some tweaking, like the hand-axe got.
However, both the DSP and the WP are nearly impossible to parry when used by players that have some semblance of thought outside "Spam R1" or "Backstab"... and so I've never liked them, I'd dare say they are the msot dangerous weapons in the game; and I'd like to try using the washing pole now, sort of to see for myself if doing such would help me figure out how to handle/spot openings better, and mostly just because I genuinely feel it's overpowered, and I'd like to use it on some of the jerks that keep using it on me.
Now with all of this rant above us, I think we have enough to discuss (or generally tell me I'm wrong about.)... I'll go drop the two builds now. As you all might know, I'm a forest hunter, so both of these builds would generally be used in the forest. I can keep up with the chunk costs of a crystal weapon, don't worry about that.
So this would be a pure damage version of the washing pole, with a WoTG backup attack for if I spawn right next to the gankers.
http://tinyurl.com/89t7hl6
and this would be a vitality gouged one for long-term engagement with the gankers... Flash Sweat is because Great Combustion seems to be a favored tool of gankers when you're winning, so I like reducing it's damage to around... 70.
http://tinyurl.com/8a3l49a
Hope you enjoy reading my threads, I think this is a long one.
I hate the Dragon Slayer Spear, it's got too high of a range for it's damage/abilities. You can turtle behind it, use a projectile attack, etc etc. Fortunately the stat requirements are so high, I rarely see it. This weapon is, admittedly, just hated because it kills me a lot.
Then I hate the black knight great axe. This is an axe somewhat similar in functionality to the Hand Axe. It's an axe style weapon that has a different, faster moveset. Now, the way they balanced the handaxe was that it removes less poise per hit then the normal axes. The developers however seem to have done -nothing- to balance this weapon. It still takes 77 poise to not be stunned by a 2 handed hit (which can easily stunlock), it's 1 handed attacks hit a bit more then a 180 degree area, and it's 2 handed attacks hit -behind- the player, so you becomes difficult to backstab. Of the weapons I hate, this weapon is the easiest to fight, despite being completely overpowered, it suffers from a functionality error I'd label as "So predictable I'll blind parry with my fist".
The last weapon I hate is the Washing Pole. I can not stress enough how... silly this weapon is. First off, the range... but secondly, it's -damage-. The washing pole is by far the most prevalent of the weapons I hate, you can find them all throughout the kiln... in the hands of every second or third darkmoon you fight. This weapon is nearly always buffed with DMB immediately, and then it can kill you in 2 hits, while having range rivaling most spears...
You know, that actually sounds fun. I gotta admit, I'm a biased judge, if I think something is overpowered, there is usually 2 leading factors to my statement.
1: I get killed by it a lot, generally by players I feel are genuinely less skilled then me. I don't feel this is a game where your weapon should be doing the work for you, and if I know that had I been using the same weapon, I'd beat you 9/10 times, I start questioning the legitlimacy of a weapons balance.
2: After I get killed enough times, I start thinking about it, and I start deciding if this is just something I'm inexperienced at fighting (For example, spears and rapiers used to kill me a lot, and I didn't like the weapon class at all... but I learned how to fight them after concluding a majority of the spears and rapiers really suck, unless you're backstabbing with them.)... if I feel I can gather up too many pro's, and not enough cons, then I feel I have a viable, but most likely biased basis for calling something overpowered, and will at least privately accuse it of being such.
So both the Dragonslayer Spear and the Washing Pole really remain to me as weapons that are overpowered, the BKGA is really quite managable compared to the two, and my only problem with dealing with it... is I've never seen it used outside the hands of gankers, and as such, they are backstabbing whores... I don't think it's actually a good weapon, it just could have used some tweaking, like the hand-axe got.
However, both the DSP and the WP are nearly impossible to parry when used by players that have some semblance of thought outside "Spam R1" or "Backstab"... and so I've never liked them, I'd dare say they are the msot dangerous weapons in the game; and I'd like to try using the washing pole now, sort of to see for myself if doing such would help me figure out how to handle/spot openings better, and mostly just because I genuinely feel it's overpowered, and I'd like to use it on some of the jerks that keep using it on me.
Now with all of this rant above us, I think we have enough to discuss (or generally tell me I'm wrong about.)... I'll go drop the two builds now. As you all might know, I'm a forest hunter, so both of these builds would generally be used in the forest. I can keep up with the chunk costs of a crystal weapon, don't worry about that.
So this would be a pure damage version of the washing pole, with a WoTG backup attack for if I spawn right next to the gankers.
http://tinyurl.com/89t7hl6
and this would be a vitality gouged one for long-term engagement with the gankers... Flash Sweat is because Great Combustion seems to be a favored tool of gankers when you're winning, so I like reducing it's damage to around... 70.
http://tinyurl.com/8a3l49a
Hope you enjoy reading my threads, I think this is a long one.
