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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:29 am

    Its tricky, I'm having trouble getting the poise I want while keeping a fast roll and good damage potential.

    http://mmdks.com/1fbp is what I have so far.

    My problem is that claymore will only hit for about 300 (unless the're using the dusk crown) and doesn't stunlock. I could make up for it with wog, but that wog will only rack up about 450 (again, unless they're wearing the dusk crown) so I'll need 3-4 of my 6 wogs to hit or 5-6 claymore hits to kill most builds. Even with replenish healing 600 hp (effectively giving me 2400 hp) a leo ringed spear or plain greatclub will kill me in 3-4 hits, meaning they have a higher and permanent damage/hp ratio, where mine drops by between 20% and 50% if I can't wog, and its tilted further if I don't have replenish active, for whatever reason.

    Thoughts? Not just Murkrow, any thoughts are welcome.
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    Post by Dutchy Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:46 am

    This is just a thought but maybe you could try Morning Star? Have a look: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=463438025398565835
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    Post by Dutchy Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:51 am

    Or this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=263647122735568751
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:54 am

    Btw, dps is included in my damage/hp ratio, the katana builds all surpass the damage/hp ratio of the build as well. Pure casters do to, but gmb/vos will neutralise their damage output abilities, for a time. Might replace something with flash sweat to shut down pyro's as well.

    @dutchy, interesting, the bleed would help offset the low damage and it applies through shields and iframes, its also lower weight. By the same token a flamberg would work well, if the moveset is agreeable (the r2's are decidedly iffy, will need to try it out before committing.)

    Don't know how I missed that, especially considering I included opposing bleed in my damage assessment. Thanks.
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    Post by Dutchy Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:07 am

    Morning star would also allow you to ditch those two points in STR and put it towards Endurance perhaps? Maxing out your stamin and making it so a Pyro flame is off hand? Just a thought.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:26 am

    Whats the poise breakpoint for greatsword running r1's?
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    Post by Dutchy Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:31 am

    Well it's 53 for a greatsword 2H heavy attack so, maybe 56 ish?
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:01 am

    http://mmdks.com/1fc9

    Think I'm done then. The great scythe has good damage, great (lol) range and it stunlocks and dead angles.

    This has been in the works, for like a month now.
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:18 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=YmFuZGl0LDUwLDgsMzYsNTAsOSwxMSw4LDEwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwzMSwxMiwxNTMsODAsMCwwLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLDEsMSwxLDAsMCwwLDAsMA==
    Ultimate fast roll heavy weapon...im a risk taker silly
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:44 am

    http://mmdks.com/1fcn
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:57 am

    Bah, I like my dragon weapons, they look stylish imo. silly
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:12 am

    PW would still put your damage buff at 73% with the roar, 90% with the rtsr and 123% with all 3.
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:18 am

    Yea, I forgot about PW. Too bad there isn't a morion blade.
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    Post by robsthedon Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:16 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:Its tricky, I'm having trouble getting the poise I want while keeping a fast roll and good damage potential.

    http://mmdks.com/1fbp is what I have so far.

    My problem is that claymore will only hit for about 300 (unless the're using the dusk crown) and doesn't stunlock. I could make up for it with wog, but that wog will only rack up about 450 (again, unless they're wearing the dusk crown) so I'll need 3-4 of my 6 wogs to hit or 5-6 claymore hits to kill most builds. Even with replenish healing 600 hp (effectively giving me 2400 hp) a leo ringed spear or plain greatclub will kill me in 3-4 hits, meaning they have a higher and permanent damage/hp ratio, where mine drops by between 20% and 50% if I can't wog, and its tilted further if I don't have replenish active, for whatever reason.

    Thoughts? Not just Murkrow, any thoughts are welcome.

    This is what I use
    https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=127032445810169366
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    Post by FattyOfDoom Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:34 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=202425217214574939
    This might be my new build to protect our Queen winking
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    Your armor isn't very good. http://mmdks.com/1ffp
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    Post by FattyOfDoom Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:46 pm

    Thanks Forum big grin
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    Post by Seth Winternight Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:49 pm

    You guys have such awesome builds compared to mine e.e

    http://mmdks.com/1exo

    I KNOW that mine is SL 60, but you guys builds look better put together.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:56 pm

    Tell me what poise and/or roll speed and/or weapons you want and what Sl you want and I'll build you something.

    Solid basic builds are pretty easy to throw together. It only gets tricky when the build gets highly specialised.
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    Post by Ahhotep1 Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:33 pm

    HAHA!! Damn glad to see you about Forum!! And sharing your expertise...NICE!!big grin

    Welcome Shedder937!! It's a late welcome but a welcome nontheless. You have been added to the cove roster. big grin

    Also, I received a pm request from metalfan95 to join the cove and asked him to post in the thread. I haven't seen his post yet...but when he does welcome him into the fold big grin

    Listen up Everyone...Robs and Roan are working hard to offer you guys the finest training this Forum can provide...remember your not just perfecting DkS skills but preparing for the release of DS2.

    The leadership of this cove very much wants to see our members go into DS2 with the best skills possible...even if the cove doesn't make the transition. At least our "members" will be "KILLA" cheers

    So, take advantage of the training!!!!!!

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    Post by BeeSeaEss Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:44 pm

    We shall wait then.... twisted
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:12 pm

    Whats the point in being both awesome and part of a group if I'm not making the group more awesome? I can't physically teach techniques due to crappy circumstances, but I can optimise builds, give step by step instructions and refer relevant videos.

    The webs been cooperating for a few days now. Even managed some pvp yesterday. 6 duels and 13 invasions. Lost 1 duel and 6 of the invasions, midrolling is not ideal for dispatching groups of casters.
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    Post by Seth Winternight Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:02 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:Tell me what poise and/or roll speed and/or weapons you want and what Sl you want and I'll build you something.

    Solid basic builds are pretty easy to throw together. It only gets tricky when the build gets highly specialised.



    Well I want to keep that SL 60 build there as my regular toon for now.



    Later on, i'd like to make another character at SL100 with some good poise and a fast roll. He will be a pyro DW, similar to my SL60 build. Any weapon is fine to use, though I dislike the rapiers. I'd just like a PvP pyro DW that can fast roll with decent poise and have a versatile weapon set.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:21 pm

    http://mmdks.com/1fj3

    The reason for the iaito is that its heavy, so it can effectively be replaced with most any dex weapon you want without putting you at a midroll.


    If the cov doesn't transfer, I vote we are "The League of Awesome" and simply claim a random high sl spot as ours. If people don't like it, we kill them, if they don't care, we kill them anyways, and if they do like it, we STILL kill them. Everyone wins, but really just us.
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    Post by FattyOfDoom Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:52 pm

    I think it won't be able to transfer sad Unless the Queen makes an appearance in Drks2

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