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    Post by Elifia Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:58 am

    twigsterxd wrote:
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    AnCapaillMor wrote:back to the PC for the past 2 days(helping mate) and noticed the online was flaky as in the fog gates would go up but no invasion, would an invasion stop you from using the black eye?
    That has happened to me sometimes on the xbox but I think it would stop the player from invading and being summoned.
    I think it would depend on who accessed the server first. I've tried to summon a white and got invaded instead because for some reason invaders get priority.

    Getting invaded doesn't stop you from summoning people, it stops you from being summoned. You can't leave your own world while there are other people in it.
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    Post by twigsterxd Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:23 am

    What I meant is it sometimes makes your summon fail because invaders get priority over summons.
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    Post by Elifia Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:37 am

    twigsterxd wrote:What I meant is it sometimes makes your summon fail because invaders get priority over summons.

    As far as I know, those summons and invasions can happen at the same time just fine. I've seen summons happen the moment I invaded often enough. Failed summons are usually the result of crappy internet connections (including long distance ones), the to-be-summoned person dying or leaving the area, or the to-be-summoned person resetting the sign by using it again.
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    Post by Xaelai Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:51 am

    The problem with SL120 is that it turns everyone into full-Giants dark
    magic/WotG spammers with 2k hp, as far as random invasions are
    concerned. There's no fun in that. If you wear gear that is easily
    obtainable by people in the area and SL range that you're invading in,
    then it's not griefing. In Anor Londo there's the giant blacksmith who
    will upgrade your weapons to lightning, so invaders should be allowed to
    use lightning weapons. When invading in undead burg/parish it still
    wouldn't be griefing if you used unupgraded stuff.

    I'm not saying ALL invading is griefing, I'm talking about people who use crap that your average player would not have access to, such as Chaos weaponry, DLC magic, DWG Ring, etc.

    Someone actually invading with normal stuff you'd have at that point in the game, hey that's awesome. Too bad it rarely happens.

    Last few times I got invaded? Let's see... there was this guy in the Depths who had 1500+ HP using a Mask, some type of Lightning Katana, DWG Ring, and who knows what other kind of crap he had on him. Backstabbed him for 300 damage and it barely put a dent in his meter. Ya, ok. Or how about the last couple AL invasions... I remember this guy ninja-flipping with some type of fire or chaos katana of some sort with ridiculous HP, I ran into some guy with a Lifehunt Scythe (technically that is obtainable before O&S, but seriously how many people are going to go and kill Priscilla before O&S? lol).

    And then there was the person who spammed that DLC magic that fires the big swath of big black bolts (Dark Bead or something like that?). That was kinda cheap too.

    Every now and then I'll get invaded by someone wearing sensible stuff.... but not very often. I dunno maybe it is because I'm on PC and you only get quality PvP on PS3? I ain't buying a PS3 just to enjoy Dark Souls PvP though lol. That's crazy.

    Hopefully in DkS2 they will make it cross-platform or something so everybody has the same playing field...
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    Post by Odinbear Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:59 am

    Xaelai wrote:.

    You see people in AL with DLC magic (something that's intended to be done far after AL normally, though it can be done earlier, your average player probably isn't going to do that), you see them with weapons and items you get in, say, Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith, the Painting, Duke's, etc.

    I've seen hosts in AL with DLC stuff (phantoms too, but I understand how they have it.). How the frack do you access Duke's Archives for the "key" to the DLC if you don't even have the lordvessel yet? Wondered this , the first time I encountered these hosts.
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    Post by Odinbear Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:20 pm

    Elifia wrote:]

    The problem with SL120 is that it turns everyone into full-Giants dark magic/WotG spammers with 2k hp, as far as random invasions are concerned. There's no fun in that. If you wear gear that is easily obtainable by people in the area and SL range that you're invading in, then it's not griefing. In Anor Londo there's the giant blacksmith who will upgrade your weapons to lightning, so invaders should be ALLOWED to use lightning weapons. When invading in undead burg/parish it still wouldn't be griefing if you used unupgraded stuff.

    Lol, ALLOWED. .?? Here's how I see it... Darkwraiths/red invaders don't have a rule book. IF YOU CAN GET IT ( remember, the game is not linear), It's supposed to be used. Therefore, to balance things, there should be helper golden/white phantoms of the same caliber to counter and contend with invaders. The game has balance.
    This make believe world in which you play, Does not have rules. Invaders are out for blood and to deal some ill intent ( assume this, always. Some invaders are just tricksters, some damage dealers. ) . Not sayin ALL ARE but this is the role the game intended they play, "The Bad guy". Not all white phantoms are there to help either, had one stand off to the side "shrugging", the other day while me and the host fought a red invader. Host dies, he shrugs at the Red, also had phantoms BLOCK MY WAY on narrow passages, not letting me move forward, while messaging me for items. Point being, there are no rules, your going to encounter Pretty much anything you can imagine. PREPARE TO DIE. It is just the way of this game.

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