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Discoveries you only made recently.
ResIsBestStat- Hollowed
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- Post n°551
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Many people not notice this, but if you parry like 0.5 late, you get a partial parry. A partial parry doesn't parry a hit, but reduces damage taken and you don't get your poise broken, it's unfortunately not that useful compared to a full parry.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°552
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Unless you're doing this.ResIsBestStat wrote:Many people not notice this, but if you parry like 0.5 late, you get a partial parry. A partial parry doesn't parry a hit, but reduces damage taken and you don't get your poise broken, it's unfortunately not that useful compared to a full parry.
cerealaire- Obsessed
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- Post n°553
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
just realized that you can teleport backstab (no lag) happened to me earlier today some guy was in front of me and got backstabed even though he wasn't near me and you can get backstabed with no damage
drdrack- Regular
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- Post n°554
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
I came back to this forum just to come to this thread and post this, because i did not know of this ever since i frist got the game. (i got the game on release)
Did you know that there is a shortcut in sen's fortress that let's you skip those F*8%ing walkways, holy F%$# if i knew this sooner...
Anyway, most of the people here probably know this, and truth be told. I probably deserves it because i bum rush that place because i hate it so much. (Irony, right?)
Did you know that there is a shortcut in sen's fortress that let's you skip those F*8%ing walkways, holy F%$# if i knew this sooner...
Anyway, most of the people here probably know this, and truth be told. I probably deserves it because i bum rush that place because i hate it so much. (Irony, right?)
cerealaire- Obsessed
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- Post n°555
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
huh really i never knew
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°556
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Yes, I learned this just recently. I literally broke down in tears. All those long travels back and forth when I could have just skipped it with that simple shortcut...drdrack wrote:I came back to this forum just to come to this thread and post this, because i did not know of this ever since i frist got the game. (i got the game on release)
Did you know that there is a shortcut in sen's fortress that let's you skip those F*8%ing walkways, holy F%$# if i knew this sooner...
Anyway, most of the people here probably know this, and truth be told. I probably deserves it because i bum rush that place because i hate it so much. (Irony, right?)
They even went out of their way to make it so that the Master Key doesn't work, you need the Cage Key. Those damn trolls.
Green__Eagle- Caffeinated
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- Post n°557
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
I don't understand how the master key can work on Big Hat Logan's cage and the cage at the end of runway, but not on the shortcut cage.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°558
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
It's like needing the Residence Key for Griggs but the Master Key works for the Gold Resin. :S
cerealaire- Obsessed
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- Post n°559
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
is he talking about the cage elevator oh ive been knowing that but i rather enjoy the party traps
Green__Eagle- Caffeinated
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- Post n°560
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
exactly, dibs. It's the same type of lock in both instances. It feels a little cheap.
Anyway, I didn't mean to side-track the discussion.
Here's something I noticed today: In the Northern Undead Asylum, you can see squares of sunlight on the floors of the prison cells at the beginning of the level.
Anyway, I didn't mean to side-track the discussion.
Here's something I noticed today: In the Northern Undead Asylum, you can see squares of sunlight on the floors of the prison cells at the beginning of the level.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°561
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
I'm curious as to which is faster, rolling after a fall or going straight into a sprint after a fall...
I'm pretty sure it's straight into a sprint...
I'm pretty sure it's straight into a sprint...
Akuro- Newbie
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- Post n°562
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
I came back to this forum just to come to this thread and post this, because i did not know of this ever since i frist got the game. (i got the game on release)
Did you know that there is a shortcut in sen's fortress that let's you skip those F*8%ing walkways, holy F%$# if i knew this sooner...
Anyway, most of the people here probably know this, and truth be told. I probably deserves it because i bum rush that place because i hate it so much. (Irony, right?)
Are you talking about the elevator? Because if so, we're in the same boat. Only discovered it recently while going all the way from the bottom of Sen's Fortress to Anor Londo. God, if I had known about it earlier...
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Jansports- Hollowed
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- Post n°563
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
The fastest way to exit a fall to the best of my knowledge is to toggle and run.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°564
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
That's what I'm thinking, but a lot of speed runs I see use the rolling method. I still use the toggle version but I have no proof that it's faster...Jansports wrote:The fastest way to exit a fall to the best of my knowledge is to toggle and run.
StiffNipples- Obsessed
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- Post n°565
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
That's what y'all mofos get for choosing the Master Key
Speaking of the Undead Asylum, Oscar is on the roof, he drops you the key to get out, then goes and gets smacked by the Asylum Demon through the roof.
The Asylum Demon is on the roof (you can see it before you first encounter it), Oscars room has only 1 entrance before that ball rolls down the stairs and makes another one, and that's through the roof. He's also lying on a pile of rubble, which I assume was once the roof.
If you time any attack just right you can almost always get a free hit when someones getting up off the floor. It's just about the only way to get a hit with some of the epically slow boss weapon R2's.
The Centipede Demon also shoots fireballs at you if you let the fight go on long enough.
I cut it's tail/arm/thing off and menu swaps to the Charred Ring and ran out onto the lava, and instead of chasing me it just started shooting fireballs at me. And they f**king hurt too.
Speaking of the Undead Asylum, Oscar is on the roof, he drops you the key to get out, then goes and gets smacked by the Asylum Demon through the roof.
The Asylum Demon is on the roof (you can see it before you first encounter it), Oscars room has only 1 entrance before that ball rolls down the stairs and makes another one, and that's through the roof. He's also lying on a pile of rubble, which I assume was once the roof.
hey its andres wrote:If you time the shotel R2 attack just as someone is getting off of the floor you always get a hit...ALWAYS.
If you time any attack just right you can almost always get a free hit when someones getting up off the floor. It's just about the only way to get a hit with some of the epically slow boss weapon R2's.
Werdax wrote:Bed of chaos has a meteor shower attack. After you cut free one of its arms, it does some weird ****, and shower fire balls upon you.
The Centipede Demon also shoots fireballs at you if you let the fight go on long enough.
I cut it's tail/arm/thing off and menu swaps to the Charred Ring and ran out onto the lava, and instead of chasing me it just started shooting fireballs at me. And they f**king hurt too.
Djem- Obsessed
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- Post n°566
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
How did you people not find out the shortcut elevator in Sen's Fortress? I thought you were talking about a glitchy shortcut like the Lower Undead Burg ones. Have you never bothered exploring all of Sen's? Step up your game people, we still have to find what the Pendant does.
I discovered / realized a while ago that the reason there are hollows running around the Undead Asylum when we return is because we, the Chosen Undead killed the Asylum Demon, thus setting the other Hollows free. We basicly started a rebellion.
I discovered / realized a while ago that the reason there are hollows running around the Undead Asylum when we return is because we, the Chosen Undead killed the Asylum Demon, thus setting the other Hollows free. We basicly started a rebellion.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°567
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Sen's isn't a place I spend much time in, it's pretty straightforward. It's not like I had the time to say "Oh hey, a cage, let me go up to it and see if I can unlock it to open a shortcut."
Just learned that Gold Tracer is amazing for PvE.
Never really used it outside of PvP
Just learned that Gold Tracer is amazing for PvE.
Never really used it outside of PvP
Djem- Obsessed
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- Post n°568
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Yeah, the current WR holder speedrunner Santzo uses the Gold Tracer in this new dexterity route of his, you should see him kill Manus with it and RTSR. He makes Manus bleed to death so quickly you blink you miss it. I didn't even know Manus could bleed.
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°569
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
He did this in the current WR run? Last I saw was sub 1:50 for all bosses, and since you said Manus I'm assuming he was doing an all boss run?
Djem- Obsessed
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- Post n°570
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Yes, it was an All Bosses run. Santzo has the WR for both Any% and All Bosses. But the WR isn't with the dexterity route, so we don't know if the dexterity route is actually faster yet. Still, he cuts through content like butter with the Gold Tracer.
We should have a Speedrunning forum on this site. I don't know how many people from the speedrunning part of the community frequent the forums, but it would be nice to cover that aspect of the game here aswell.
We should have a Speedrunning forum on this site. I don't know how many people from the speedrunning part of the community frequent the forums, but it would be nice to cover that aspect of the game here aswell.
befowler- Moderator
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- Post n°571
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
StiffNipples wrote:
Speaking of the Undead Asylum, Oscar is on the roof, he drops you the key to get out, then goes and gets smacked by the Asylum Demon through the roof.
The Asylum Demon is on the roof (you can see it before you first encounter it), Oscars room has only 1 entrance before that ball rolls down the stairs and makes another one, and that's through the roof. He's also lying on a pile of rubble, which I assume was once the roof.
Nice, I admittedly never wondered why he was in that room.
Re tagging people getting up off the ground, the great club two handed R2 is amazing at this. It's pretty worthless in PvP aside from a few other obscure situations, but it has a surprisingly forgiving window for curbstomping someone who is trying to get back on their feet. It's like the hit window lingers for an extra moment or two after it hits the ground, plus the overall windup is almost as slow as a BS recovery so it's easy to time it.
Another thing I noticed recently was that while I was trying to do unarmed open hand parries on an invader punching me with their fist (don't ask) it kept making metallic partial parry sounds.
Djem- Obsessed
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- Post n°572
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Metal gauntlets?
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°573
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Goron Bracelets.
CarverUpqik- Addicted
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- Post n°574
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
i just learned that the painting guardian sword is WAYYY better than the gold tracer (in the right hand at least) i mean yea sure, it has a little less range (not much though) but the damage output is way higher and it still has bleed and same exact moveset in right hand
Dibsville- Abyss Dweller
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- Post n°575
Re: Discoveries you only made recently.
Gold Tracer has faster bleed build-up, as well as an extra hit on the first 2h R2. Also, the 1h R2 is unique and is great for baits.CarverUpqik wrote:i just learned that the painting guardian sword is WAYYY better than the gold tracer (in the right hand at least) i mean yea sure, it has a little less range (not much though) but the damage output is way higher and it still has bleed and same exact moveset in right hand
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