That's my impression at least.
I also felt Laurentius went down to find chaos pyro and couldn't see Quelana
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DoughGuy wrote:Ahh but Laurentius goes down for 2 reasons. Either you show him a chaos pyromancy or an ascended glove. What do the 2 people down their that do those things have in common? Illusions. Either he cant find the illusion wall hiding Quelaan (just because you broke it doesnt mean he did) or he cant see Quelana like you can (cause his pyro is not good enough). Either way he cant see what you sent him down to find. His disappointment coupled with his hate fro you sending him on a useless mission hollows him.
Shkar wrote:I think the Crestfallen Warrior probably smelt all the dead bodies in New Londo and gave up hope that there was any remaining sanctuary in Lordran.
PlasticandRage wrote:Shkar wrote:I think the Crestfallen Warrior probably smelt all the dead bodies in New Londo and gave up hope that there was any remaining sanctuary in Lordran.
Before he says it smells he says it snores.
DoughGuy wrote:Greqat lightning spear
"Miracle passed down to those bound by the Warrior of Sunlight covenant. Hurl giant lightning spear.
The weapon of the God of War, who inherited the sunlight of Lord Gwyn, but had respect only for arms, and nothing else."
PlasticandRage wrote:I just initiated that dialog to try to come up with my own interpretation, as I never talk to him so most of my builds have him in their Firelink. Here's my two cents. First he says "we have a new problem, it's noisy, it snores, and its breath is horrible." then in his next dialog, after placing the lord vessel, he says "Oh that smell...and I was really beginning to like it here. Maybe it's time I do something about it." I think he's still talking about Frampt. I think he's entering New Londo in an attempt to commune with Kaathe and hopefully 'do something about it,' meaning do something about Frampt. Considering it could be argued that Kaathe and Frampt are enemies.
I agree with Shkar. There's no reason he would go looking for Kaathe let alone know about him. Also theres no reason to think that Kaathe could do anything about Frampt.Shkar wrote:PlasticandRage wrote:I just initiated that dialog to try to come up with my own interpretation, as I never talk to him so most of my builds have him in their Firelink. Here's my two cents. First he says "we have a new problem, it's noisy, it snores, and its breath is horrible." then in his next dialog, after placing the lord vessel, he says "Oh that smell...and I was really beginning to like it here. Maybe it's time I do something about it." I think he's still talking about Frampt. I think he's entering New Londo in an attempt to commune with Kaathe and hopefully 'do something about it,' meaning do something about Frampt. Considering it could be argued that Kaathe and Frampt are enemies.
Problem is, no reference is made to Kaathe, so there is n reason to suspect he knows of Kaathe.
JohnnyHarpoon wrote:DoughGuy wrote:Greqat lightning spear
"Miracle passed down to those bound by the Warrior of Sunlight covenant. Hurl giant lightning spear.
The weapon of the God of War, who inherited the sunlight of Lord Gwyn, but had respect only for arms, and nothing else."
Great find. I still believe the fact that it's a 'the weapon of the God of War' kinda is the giveaway that Solaire is the fallen God of War (if nothing else...), but it's interesting that he only respected arms - explains why he can do much damage with a Sunlight Straight Sword
Just my opinion, though.
DoughGuy wrote:I agree with Shkar. There's no reason he would go looking for Kaathe let alone know about him. Also theres no reason to think that Kaathe could do anything about Frampt.Shkar wrote:PlasticandRage wrote:I just initiated that dialog to try to come up with my own interpretation, as I never talk to him so most of my builds have him in their Firelink. Here's my two cents. First he says "we have a new problem, it's noisy, it snores, and its breath is horrible." then in his next dialog, after placing the lord vessel, he says "Oh that smell...and I was really beginning to like it here. Maybe it's time I do something about it." I think he's still talking about Frampt. I think he's entering New Londo in an attempt to commune with Kaathe and hopefully 'do something about it,' meaning do something about Frampt. Considering it could be argued that Kaathe and Frampt are enemies.
Problem is, no reference is made to Kaathe, so there is n reason to suspect he knows of Kaathe.
DoughGuy wrote:I agree with Shkar. There's no reason he would go looking for Kaathe let alone know about him. Also theres no reason to think that Kaathe could do anything about Frampt.Shkar wrote:PlasticandRage wrote:I just initiated that dialog to try to come up with my own interpretation, as I never talk to him so most of my builds have him in their Firelink. Here's my two cents. First he says "we have a new problem, it's noisy, it snores, and its breath is horrible." then in his next dialog, after placing the lord vessel, he says "Oh that smell...and I was really beginning to like it here. Maybe it's time I do something about it." I think he's still talking about Frampt. I think he's entering New Londo in an attempt to commune with Kaathe and hopefully 'do something about it,' meaning do something about Frampt. Considering it could be argued that Kaathe and Frampt are enemies.
Problem is, no reference is made to Kaathe, so there is n reason to suspect he knows of Kaathe.
Shkar wrote:DoughGuy wrote:I agree with Shkar. There's no reason he would go looking for Kaathe let alone know about him. Also theres no reason to think that Kaathe could do anything about Frampt.Shkar wrote:PlasticandRage wrote:I just initiated that dialog to try to come up with my own interpretation, as I never talk to him so most of my builds have him in their Firelink. Here's my two cents. First he says "we have a new problem, it's noisy, it snores, and its breath is horrible." then in his next dialog, after placing the lord vessel, he says "Oh that smell...and I was really beginning to like it here. Maybe it's time I do something about it." I think he's still talking about Frampt. I think he's entering New Londo in an attempt to commune with Kaathe and hopefully 'do something about it,' meaning do something about Frampt. Considering it could be argued that Kaathe and Frampt are enemies.
Problem is, no reference is made to Kaathe, so there is n reason to suspect he knows of Kaathe.
Well, I actually stand by my personal belief that the 10 primordial serpents in the dark lord ending are actually one massive hydra like creature. If that is in fact what they are, then perhaps Kaathe could do something about Frampt.
Then again, I can't see them doing much other then straight up arguing/debating.
PlasticandRage wrote:
Isn't part of Kaathe's whole deal to try to correct mistakes he believes Frampt is committing? I feel like enough vague statements are made by the Crestfallen Warrior that it's silly to call one argument without basis any more than another. Aside for a distaste for Frampt and a desire for te bells to ring
PlasticandRage wrote:
That's pretty interesting. Haven't heard that theory before.
DoughGuy wrote:yes but how would Kaathe do anything to Frampt? They are eiither a) two serpents that are the same in body or b) 2 heads of the one beast. Either way Kaathe only has a 50/50 chance of winning. Also while ther are 1 heads the fact that Frampt hangs upside down in the kiln makes me believe they are separate entities.
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