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The great search
SpecOps0- Regular
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- Post n°226
Re: The great search
Interesting, I would like to know all the secrets of dark souls. xD I wish...
Delvanoc- Obsessed
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- Post n°227
Re: The great search
What about killing certain npcs at certain stages of the game? Has that been attempted, atleast in attempting to light the braziers?
Eolan- Obsessed
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- Post n°228
Re: The great search
Surely someone from "from" has addressed the braziers at some point by now? At least cryptically. It seems like everyones just waiting for the pc to solve it all, they should rekindle the scent.
billy_bayonet- Chosen Undead
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- Post n°229
Re: The great search
i notcied something earlier i was in teh dukes archive tower, and though i wonder if anyone has looke at those books so i got my binochalalrllejoasriho (however its spelt) and had a looksie, im sure it could be nothing but it seemed like there was names of books but i couldnt just make them out, i mean if your gonna hide some big secret, where else then a big tower full of books?
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- Post n°230
Re: The great search
I could not help it but I swiched up the bandit and the thief somehow this seems more logical to me
So now the list looks like this
Started today with : Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Warrior / Warrior of Sunlight / Jubilant Catarina / link the fire
Knight / Princess's Guard / Astora Noble / link the fire
Wanderer / Blade of the Darkmoon / Far East traveler / link the fire
Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Bandit / Gravelord Servant / Classic Zena / link the fire
Hunter / Forest Hunter / Delta Farmer / walk away
Sorcerer / Path of the Dragon / Dragon Scholar / walk away
Pyromancer / Chaos Servant / Earie Great Swamp / link the fire
Cleric / Way of White / Thorolund Cleric / link the fire
Deprived / None / commoner
So now the list looks like this
Started today with : Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Warrior / Warrior of Sunlight / Jubilant Catarina / link the fire
Knight / Princess's Guard / Astora Noble / link the fire
Wanderer / Blade of the Darkmoon / Far East traveler / link the fire
Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Bandit / Gravelord Servant / Classic Zena / link the fire
Hunter / Forest Hunter / Delta Farmer / walk away
Sorcerer / Path of the Dragon / Dragon Scholar / walk away
Pyromancer / Chaos Servant / Earie Great Swamp / link the fire
Cleric / Way of White / Thorolund Cleric / link the fire
Deprived / None / commoner
Kenko- Newbie
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- Post n°231
Re: The great search
hey guys has anyone noticed that when you are summoned as a phantom you get a little bit cursed? are you cursed by the gods? :o
sorry if it has already been discussed
sorry if it has already been discussed
skarekrow13- Chat Moderator
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- Post n°232
Re: The great search
Sunbro, you're crazy and we love it.
Billy, great...now I gotta go look.
Kenko, you mean the curse meter goes up?
Billy, great...now I gotta go look.
Kenko, you mean the curse meter goes up?
Eolan- Obsessed
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- Post n°233
Re: The great search
What weapons are you using? i notice some effects get cast on you when you equip certain weapons, it might just be that being summoned counts as re-equiping stuff.
sunbro- Addicted
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- Post n°234
Re: The great search
skarekrow13 wrote:Sunbro, you're crazy and we love it.
a bit mad but determent 8)
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- Post n°235
Re: The great search
Lol....right on sunbro.
sunbro- Addicted
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- Post n°236
Re: The great search
So I'm doing the run with the Gravelord toon
In another topic here we were discussing that maybe we should try a cursed run
Now as the gravelords curse people worlds would it be logic that a gravelord him self would be cursed to
Cause Nito is the first of the dead and thus has no humanity what would happen when the fire is linked with no humanity
And if I remember correct for the gravelord miracles no faith is required
So if I'm cursed have alot of vitality it should be possible to run this toon
Also I think the weapon of the gravelord should be the server maybe an occult server
@ Acidic Cook hope you're reading this could I could use you're advice here
In another topic here we were discussing that maybe we should try a cursed run
Now as the gravelords curse people worlds would it be logic that a gravelord him self would be cursed to
Cause Nito is the first of the dead and thus has no humanity what would happen when the fire is linked with no humanity
And if I remember correct for the gravelord miracles no faith is required
So if I'm cursed have alot of vitality it should be possible to run this toon
Also I think the weapon of the gravelord should be the server maybe an occult server
@ Acidic Cook hope you're reading this could I could use you're advice here
Kenko- Newbie
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- Post n°237
Re: The great search
ohhh yea maybe its the weapon i am using good point! yes the meter goes up :o
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- Post n°238
Re: The great search
I've noticed the same thing, I think for a second before I get sent back home, for killing the host or boss. It doesn't really fill up but it appears for a second as if I had equipped something to increase it, which I hadn't.
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- Post n°239
Re: The great search
Anchises wrote:I've noticed the same thing, I think for a second before I get sent back home, for killing the host or boss. It doesn't really fill up but it appears for a second as if I had equipped something to increase it, which I hadn't.
Every soft humanity you have in your counter increases your curse resist, normally you don't see the meter go up, but due to lag while in a hosts world you can occasionally see the curse meter go up.
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- Post n°240
Re: The great search
oooooohhhh, that makes sense, thanks
swordiris- Caffeinated
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- Post n°241
Re: The great search
After reading this out I decided to check because I thought I saw one on one of my playthroughs. Don't mark me as the third witness though because I'm not quite sure and it isn't lit now. However I have some ideas.
Remember the crystal caves when we had to walk across the invisible bridges? What if there is a really skinny one there. Tomorrow I'm gonna try falling and jumping off the ledge at every pixel. I'm sure it is a long shot but everything about these chalices is.
Also on my 190 (the one that I thought I saw a chalice before) I used to have a pendant. I stupidly traded it to snuggly for a souvenir. Might have something to do with why I don't see it now. I also think it is something that has to be done in one playthrough.
Remember the crystal caves when we had to walk across the invisible bridges? What if there is a really skinny one there. Tomorrow I'm gonna try falling and jumping off the ledge at every pixel. I'm sure it is a long shot but everything about these chalices is.
Also on my 190 (the one that I thought I saw a chalice before) I used to have a pendant. I stupidly traded it to snuggly for a souvenir. Might have something to do with why I don't see it now. I also think it is something that has to be done in one playthrough.
skarekrow13- Chat Moderator
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- Post n°242
Re: The great search
You don't need to jump at every point actually, because the "YOU DIED" and respawn might make you go insane. You can buy 99 prism stones and hold 99 more giving you close to 200 to throw around the edges. Arrows can work too and you could have many, many more tries (999 of each type means LOTS of arrows). I would try that instead of jumping everywhere. It's possible they coded a super secret ledge that won't be "solid" to anything but you I suppose.
swordiris- Caffeinated
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- Post n°243
Re: The great search
Unfortunately no luck. I tried to look for an illusory wall in the Kiln or something and it annoys me how many paths are in that place that lead to slopes to sttep to climb
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- Post n°244
Re: The great search
Is there any progress on the great search Sunbro? Have been eagerly watching this thread. I wonder, how many NG's has someone been through in dark souls? I mean has anyoone reached NG+x10? or x9 for that matter?
I hope that this theory has some merit. It is a favorite one of mine.
I hope that this theory has some merit. It is a favorite one of mine.
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- Post n°245
Re: The great search
Loken wrote:Is there any progress on the great search Sunbro? Have been eagerly watching this thread. I wonder, how many NG's has someone been through in dark souls? I mean has anyoone reached NG+x10? or x9 for that matter?
I hope that this theory has some merit. It is a favorite one of mine.
Well I'm a bit sidetracked now caus of Dragons Dogma (all most finiched)
But wil be picking up where I left
post new playrough soon
Oh and I run to NG++ with every toon
Intro_To_Madness- Newbie
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- Post n°246
Re: The great search
First off, Hello everyone! I'm new so I'll try not to mess anything up. So I've been reading this thread for a few days since this has always bugged me since I first saw the Braziers. Someone, on one of the forums said that they thought of using the demons souls in the room, well that got me thinking, has anyone tried anything with fire keeper souls? I know theirs only 7 a playthrough but you can get more on NG+ so it might work. I've tried using one with the lordvessal in the altar when it had no souls in it, can/has anyone tried this with all of the souls or without the lordvessal there? Probably won't do anything but this is driving me crazy, I need an answer to this mystery!
Blaze1st- Newbie
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- Post n°247
Re: The great search
The door behind the braziers looks the same as the one under the bridge/steps down leading to the Firesage in Demon Ruins... a bit far down for me to jump especially with my 10 vit! 
Would make sense to stick the cells down there though.

Would make sense to stick the cells down there though.
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- Post n°248
Re: The great search
I've read like 80% of this thread and I'm convinced ever single person who saw a brazier lit is either trolling or it's some glitch from a leftover design that was cut. Let me explain why.
You guys all know that there is a text dump of the game and a model viewer of the entire game right?
So what would even happen if they were all lit? We know there is nothing there because you would be able to see it with the map viewer and we know there is no dialogue attached because it would be seen in the text dump.
I honestly think it is from a design that was cut but they ended up leaving them there because it looked awesome.
Here is my theory: Instead of feeding the souls of the Lords like we do now to get to the Kiln, every time you beat a boss a new Brazier would be lit. If you look beyond the braziers, you can see what looks like a door. Just like the one leading to the kiln after the Lordvessal. So maybe that was the original way into the Kiln. But they scrapped it, loved how it looked and left it in the room unreachable just to add a little mystery to the game.
The only thing to counteract my theory is that Dark Souls is carefully crafted. There is hardly anything in the game that wasn't put there arbitrarily or by accident. Even empty spaces like the one where the statue should be in Anor Londo is deliberate.
But even with the PC release now no one has found anything new in the game files. So sadly, I really think everyone has been wasting their time.
You guys all know that there is a text dump of the game and a model viewer of the entire game right?
So what would even happen if they were all lit? We know there is nothing there because you would be able to see it with the map viewer and we know there is no dialogue attached because it would be seen in the text dump.
I honestly think it is from a design that was cut but they ended up leaving them there because it looked awesome.
Here is my theory: Instead of feeding the souls of the Lords like we do now to get to the Kiln, every time you beat a boss a new Brazier would be lit. If you look beyond the braziers, you can see what looks like a door. Just like the one leading to the kiln after the Lordvessal. So maybe that was the original way into the Kiln. But they scrapped it, loved how it looked and left it in the room unreachable just to add a little mystery to the game.
The only thing to counteract my theory is that Dark Souls is carefully crafted. There is hardly anything in the game that wasn't put there arbitrarily or by accident. Even empty spaces like the one where the statue should be in Anor Londo is deliberate.
But even with the PC release now no one has found anything new in the game files. So sadly, I really think everyone has been wasting their time.
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- Post n°249
Re: The great search
Maybe the reason that no dialogue has been found and that there is nothing in the map viewer is simply because the braziers being lit doesn't open up a new area or make an NPC do something. Maybe it just gives us a new item like a weapon or armour set, or a spell, and it's in a place that we already know exists, which is why there is no other collision data.
I don't know if you can see items in the game files or not. If you can, then someone who has time on their hands (and knows how to) should look at all the spells and items to see if there's anything we don't know about. If you can't see them in the files, then maybe that's what the secret of the braziers is, just a new item or spell that we don't know exists because the only place to find it is the game, not the files.
Or maybe we're all just reading too much and thinking too hard, and there actually isn't anything there. Who knows?
Also, good luck with the search sunbro

I don't know if you can see items in the game files or not. If you can, then someone who has time on their hands (and knows how to) should look at all the spells and items to see if there's anything we don't know about. If you can't see them in the files, then maybe that's what the secret of the braziers is, just a new item or spell that we don't know exists because the only place to find it is the game, not the files.
Or maybe we're all just reading too much and thinking too hard, and there actually isn't anything there. Who knows?
Also, good luck with the search sunbro


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- Post n°250
Re: The great search
well started again this week, I finiched dragon's dogma for the third time
and that has lost it's charm now :|
So back on track with the great search, alltough you can name it the great nothing now
Finiched up the darkwraith toon today in NG+ and......nothing :x
So now starting with the gravelord......
The only thing I do like about this search is that everytime I start a new toon I play the game different and you stand different in the game
With my darkwraith it'spure evil exploiting NPC and stealing their humanity and finicing off when you dont need them anymore like Lautrec
Warrior / Warrior of Sunlight / Jubilant Catarina / link the fire
Knight / Princess's Guard / Astora Noble / link the fire
Wanderer / Blade of the Darkmoon / Far East traveler / link the fire
Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Bandit / Gravelord Servant / Classic Zena / link the fire
Hunter / Forest Hunter / Delta Farmer / walk away
Sorcerer / Path of the Dragon / Dragon Scholar / walk away
Pyromancer / Chaos Servant / Earie Great Swamp / link the fire
Cleric / Way of White / Thorolund Cleric / link the fire
Deprived / None / commoner
and that has lost it's charm now :|
So back on track with the great search, alltough you can name it the great nothing now
Finiched up the darkwraith toon today in NG+ and......nothing :x
So now starting with the gravelord......
The only thing I do like about this search is that everytime I start a new toon I play the game different and you stand different in the game
With my darkwraith it'spure evil exploiting NPC and stealing their humanity and finicing off when you dont need them anymore like Lautrec
Warrior / Warrior of Sunlight / Jubilant Catarina / link the fire
Knight / Princess's Guard / Astora Noble / link the fire
Wanderer / Blade of the Darkmoon / Far East traveler / link the fire
Thief / Darkwraith / Dubious Carim / walk away
Bandit / Gravelord Servant / Classic Zena / link the fire
Hunter / Forest Hunter / Delta Farmer / walk away
Sorcerer / Path of the Dragon / Dragon Scholar / walk away
Pyromancer / Chaos Servant / Earie Great Swamp / link the fire
Cleric / Way of White / Thorolund Cleric / link the fire
Deprived / None / commoner
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