GIVE IT BACK TO MIYAZAKI

MasterofShadows wrote:

ComaPrison wrote:Sure, I may be trolling, but deep down you're afraid that what I predict will really come to pass. I'm afraid too

It wouldn't exactly be new for a great thing to be destroyed by greed, the profit motive, and mainstreaming. I'm just trying to lower the hell out of all of our expectations now so we won't be as disappointed when we find out that half of those depressing predictions turn out to be correct.

Of course, its a basic psychological survival technique, designed to protect oneself from potential emotional harm. Just say that it will suck, and the disappointment won't hit you so hard, because you've already prepared yourself emotionally. My only problem with this is that it tends to cause people to resort to irrational arguments to justify it, like making assumptions that have little to no basis, and acting as if there is an actual basis.

ComaPrison wrote: I gave them the benefit of the doubt with a pre-order, and it turned out to have been a huge mistake.

CaptanSpudsy wrote:

ComaPrison wrote: I gave them the benefit of the doubt with a pre-order, and it turned out to have been a huge mistake.

You can cancel pre-orders.


Anywho, I say if DkS II isn't that great, bring Miazaki back. I willing to give the new guy a chance. But only one.

ComaPrison wrote:\

Also, Namco don't give a flying F what you want as long as they can trick dumbass fan boys into opening up their wallets.

gaarafrednorris wrote:Lucas didn't Direct what's referred to as the best Star Wars.

Honestly, Shibuya is a nice choice. He's done most of the Monster Hunter (Say what you will, they have addicting gameplay and give the challenge I love) and worked on the Ultima series. Man knows his fantasy.

And look at the Final Fantasy series (flame defenses, ACTIVATE!). Sakaguichi has done every game up to 8. After that, each installment got a new director and personally, I love them all and didn't know it was a different person till I actually googled. Sakaguichi even said his favorite is *gasp* 9! The first one he never worked on.

So yeah. New director doesn't mean it's going to be bad. And from the concept art that was posted, it seems he knows his horror as well. I'm going to go on a limb and say it'll either be just as good as the other if not the best one yet.

ComaPrison wrote:

CaptanSpudsy wrote:

ComaPrison wrote: I gave them the benefit of the doubt with a pre-order, and it turned out to have been a huge mistake.

You can cancel pre-orders.


Anywho, I say if DkS II isn't that great, bring Miazaki back. I willing to give the new guy a chance. But only one.

LOL I meant that I pre-ordered, then I got and played the game. And then it turns out that the franchise was destroyed. I'm referring to Hitman.

Also, Namco don't give a flying F what you want as long as they can trick dumbass fan boys into opening up their wallets.

MasterofShadows wrote:

ComaPrison wrote:

CaptanSpudsy wrote:

ComaPrison wrote: I gave them the benefit of the doubt with a pre-order, and it turned out to have been a huge mistake.

You can cancel pre-orders.


Anywho, I say if DkS II isn't that great, bring Miazaki back. I willing to give the new guy a chance. But only one.

LOL I meant that I pre-ordered, then I got and played the game. And then it turns out that the franchise was destroyed. I'm referring to Hitman.

Also, Namco don't give a flying F what you want as long as they can trick dumbass fan boys into opening up their wallets.

Ouch. Yeah, I'm a LOOOONG time Hitman fan. I was burned too, so I can understand.

The Letter X wrote:It's not like these two new directors are some average joes or nobodies from the street, these are guys that worked on big titles already. It's not like they will make the worst game known in existence, probably nearly the opposite. The worst they can do is take away things from the previous Souls games that we have grown to love, but is that really a bad thing? If it stayed too similar all the time, we'd just start complaining for new stuff eventually.

ComaPrison wrote:

The Letter X wrote:It's not like these two new directors are some average joes or nobodies from the street, these are guys that worked on big titles already. It's not like they will make the worst game known in existence, probably nearly the opposite. The worst they can do is take away things from the previous Souls games that we have grown to love, but is that really a bad thing? If it stayed too similar all the time, we'd just start complaining for new stuff eventually.

Just because they've already worked on big titles doesn't mean they understand, respect, or appreciate the beauty of Souls.

MasterofShadows wrote:

ComaPrison wrote:

The Letter X wrote:It's not like these two new directors are some average joes or nobodies from the street, these are guys that worked on big titles already. It's not like they will make the worst game known in existence, probably nearly the opposite. The worst they can do is take away things from the previous Souls games that we have grown to love, but is that really a bad thing? If it stayed too similar all the time, we'd just start complaining for new stuff eventually.

Just because they've already worked on big titles doesn't mean they understand, respect, or appreciate the beauty of Souls.

When the truth comes out ComaPrison, you're just someone who needs a hung. Comere...(motions him over)....

ComaPrison wrote:

MasterofShadows wrote:

ComaPrison wrote:

The Letter X wrote:It's not like these two new directors are some average joes or nobodies from the street, these are guys that worked on big titles already. It's not like they will make the worst game known in existence, probably nearly the opposite. The worst they can do is take away things from the previous Souls games that we have grown to love, but is that really a bad thing? If it stayed too similar all the time, we'd just start complaining for new stuff eventually.

Just because they've already worked on big titles doesn't mean they understand, respect, or appreciate the beauty of Souls.

When the truth comes out ComaPrison, you're just someone who needs a hug. Comere...(motions him over)....

MY SOOOOOOOULS

gaarafrednorris wrote:Lucas didn't Direct what's referred to as the best Star Wars.

Honestly, Shibuya is a nice choice. He's done most of the Monster Hunter (Say what you will, they have addicting gameplay and give the challenge I love) and worked on the Ultima series. Man knows his fantasy.

And look at the Final Fantasy series (flame defenses, ACTIVATE!). Sakaguichi has done every game up to 8. After that, each installment got a new director and personally, I love them all and didn't know it was a different person till I actually googled. Sakaguichi even said his favorite is *gasp* 9! The first one he never worked on.

So yeah. New director doesn't mean it's going to be bad. And from the concept art that was posted, it seems he knows his horror as well. I'm going to go on a limb and say it'll either be just as good as the other if not the best one yet.

MasterofShadows wrote:

Contrary to popular belief, game development is much more collaborative than film-making.

Sloth9230 wrote:^what he said, Streetfighter X tekken anybody?

Tomhet wrote:

There are some games that without the director's unique vision they would be literally nothing.

I have the impression that the Souls series was also a personal project for Miyazaki. As I said in my previous post, the magazine quotes how he was the one that decided that the lore would be presented in such an enigmatic way so that we the players could fill the gaps with our imagination. That's not a feature that you will get from ANY director, it was something related to a personal experience of his.

So maybe DK2 won't be a bad game after all, hell, maybe it will be a unique game just like the first, it's too early to say, but IMHO they showed a huge amount of ingratitude when they decided to replace someone who invested so much in the Souls titles.

MasterofShadows wrote:Okay, so you prefer Eastern developers over Western.