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    Post by Sentiel Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:31 am

    I actually like when the game makes the skill gap visible and noticable.
    Hence why I like Halo, well, used to and why I like Souls games.

    I hate to lose only because of some numbers, levels, whatever, which is a typical case of every MMORPG and recent shooter games.

    I don't care that there's some kid with level 50, with golden AK-47 that is more powerful, more precise and has attachments and upgrades that just make it impossible for me to win in a fair fight, because I don't have any of those.
    Replace the AK-47 with some Super Rare LeveL 85 Greatsword of Unholy Apocalypse +5 for MMORPGs.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:33 am

    World of Warcraft had some astonishingly good examples of that.
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    Post by AnCapaillMor Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:39 am

    RenegadeCop wrote:My mouse cost me a good £15, so it's pretty decent. I don't get why people call gaming mouses 'gaming' mouses. To me, they're just more flat. Doesn't do too much.

    Gaming mouses have a better DPI and so quicker aiming, most allow you to change DPI, lower dpi is handy for sniping. I get what you say about the flat mice, i go with logitech g series, adjustable weight sounds daft but it's handy, they also have a buttload of buttons which are very handy. I usually have, use, grenade, crouch, prone, melee, reload all mapped to the mouse along with the usuals.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:41 am

    I never knew about the DPI. I guess I'll appreciate my mouse more now.
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    Post by AnCapaillMor Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:45 am

    High DPI takes some getting used to but the milliseconds saved is the difference between life and death. It's an absolute life saver on tanks in BF3.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:47 am

    On Crysis, I did notice much faster turning. I guess my mouse is why.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:54 am

    Sentiel wrote:I actually like when the game makes the skill gap visible and noticable.
    Hence why I like Halo, well, used to and why I like Souls games.

    I hate to lose only because of some numbers, levels, whatever, which is a typical case of every MMORPG and recent shooter games.

    I don't care that there's some kid with level 50, with golden AK-47 that is more powerful, more precise and has attachments and upgrades that just make it impossible for me to win in a fair fight, because I don't have any of those.
    Replace the AK-47 with some Super Rare LeveL 85 Greatsword of Unholy Apocalypse +5 for MMORPGs.
    But it kills in 2-4 bullets anyways. if the RoF is the same, whomever has shoots first wins. Even if they kill in 3 instead of 4 (the AK isn't getting 2 headshots in a row) if there is more than like a 1/3rd of a second delay you still win. they're uber gun really isn't uber.
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    Post by Sentiel Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:56 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:
    Sentiel wrote:I actually like when the game makes the skill gap visible and noticable.
    Hence why I like Halo, well, used to and why I like Souls games.

    I hate to lose only because of some numbers, levels, whatever, which is a typical case of every MMORPG and recent shooter games.

    I don't care that there's some kid with level 50, with golden AK-47 that is more powerful, more precise and has attachments and upgrades that just make it impossible for me to win in a fair fight, because I don't have any of those.
    Replace the AK-47 with some Super Rare LeveL 85 Greatsword of Unholy Apocalypse +5 for MMORPGs.
    But it kills in 2-4 bullets anyways. if the RoF is the same, whomever has shoots first wins. Even if they kill in 3 instead of 4 (the AK isn't getting 2 headshots in a row) if there is more than like a 1/3rd of a second delay you still win. they're uber gun really isn't uber.
    That's why I mentioned the fair fight part, which implies a standard western shootout.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:59 am

    I use the M16, so maybe thats just not an issue for me (1 well aimed trigger pull is always fatal excepting sniper type distances)
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:57 am

    I use the UMP-45 in BF3 and its gooooood, it has good reload time too
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:01 pm

    Where is the love for the m4a1?
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:06 pm

    M4A1 is great in BF3, it has a good iron sight and a good reload speed, I used to use it all the time
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:51 pm

    It's a shame it's for U.S. forces only. sad
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:50 pm

    I just always hate in shooters these days how if you're sniping, you're supposed to go for headshots.

    Military snipers are trained to mostly go for the torso, the heart/lungs. Only in specific conditions are snipers trained to go for headshots. And that's mostly for members of SWAT, not the military.

    "Well they're both killshots, but obviously going for the smaller more likely to move target is the way to go!" I just hate the mentality of focusing on headshots unless it is a really gamey-game. Halo I get, Team Fortress 2 I get. CoD? Isn't it trying to be realistic?
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    Post by GrinTwist Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:52 pm

    I think CoD stopped being realistic along time ago, like after MW2.
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:58 pm

    ^yep
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:05 pm

    MW2 was the best CoD game. It just went downhill after.
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:07 pm

    In my Opinion, COD1 was the best COD game, and it went downhill after that.
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    Post by GrinTwist Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:09 pm

    I'll always love Big Red One more than any of the other CoD's.

    It's one of the few FPS games I still have for my gamecube.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:11 pm

    Gamecube = Epic
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    Post by AnCapaillMor Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:15 pm

    RenegadeCop wrote:It's a shame it's for U.S. forces only. sad

    Max out the engineer class and you can pick it anytime. Same goes for m16/AK, m27ar/rpk dunno about sniper, dirty class.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:17 pm

    I never knew that. I didn't really get into BF3 much. I got into BF2 much more. Thanks though!
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:39 pm

    It works for all classes.There is also a rank requirement for unlocking the M9 and MP443 for both sides.I never got how people are Colonel 100,I put around 230 hours into multiplayer and I'm like Colonel 26 or something.
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    Post by User1 Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:42 pm

    Hax.
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:45 pm

    I'd be inclined to think so when I'm taking their dogtags.You would have to play a LOT to get that high and now there's at least one in every lobby.

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