To NG + Gravelord Tour of Lordran SL 70 9-15-2012 Butterfly Forest Area

I just like fire weapons. I feel like you earn the right to them by braving the Catacombs early, plus they're cool.

Edit, plus it's pretty fun to cause trouble for Vega.

fearandwhiskey wrote:I just like fire weapons. I feel like you earn the right to them by braving the Catacombs early, plus they're cool.

Edit, plus it's pretty fun to cause trouble for Vega.

Ohhh so thats how it is heheh. I love trouble! just don't chain BS me hehe.

I like +5 for Depths. Though I do understand the concerns of Ghadis with the fact many of us are wearing advanced armors, that are in alot of cases upgraded. My +5 Clay was perfectly appropriate, but some of the smaller weapons were really underperforming, I just don't know what to do.

I understand his concern too. There is just no way to balance this because as it was pointed out a +10 zwei is not the same as a +10 straight sword. so even if we went up there is still no balance. I think a +10 pyro, pine resin, charcoal resin, a better weapon at +5 is a good way to go. I have already decided when we make our run through Btown we will start the level with weapons at +10.

I would also add that anything anyone needs can be supplied.

Yeah I agree, I just felt kind of bad when the Estoc and Rapier users hit me for 22 dmg due to my two pieces of Black Iron lol

Well who's fault is that? Plus why are you wearing black armor? are you afraid to die?????
I am going to put some armor restrictions for the next few stops. I am still using the tattered cloth armor.

Any suggestions where we should congregate? I vote for the slime hall ( i know I am weird)
How about just roaming the path from the rats to basilisks back to the bonfire?

The spawn point is by the rats. If I'm waiting for invasions, I normally wait by the stairs so I can be at the other end of the hall when the invader shows up.

I am so used to just walking slowly back and forth to the basiliks while farming and I usually don't hang out there once I am done farming. Before I used to hang out in the bonfire room. Usually as soon as I heard the invasion sound I would go down the first set of stairs and hide against the wall. The would usually run past me and I would then strike!

I wonder if all the gravelords will stay at the bon room...Like a sauna

whitechikz11 wrote:I wonder if all the gravelords will stay at the bon room...Like a sauna

I wasn't "just" using a longsword, it was an example. I had a Battle Axe, Server, Estoc, Lucerne, and Longsword, none were very effective at +5. I also tried the charcoal buff, and it added maybe 40 damage a hit on other people, maybe even less. That is a good point about the heavier weapons at +10, but that is a part of balance that those weapons be more powerful, as at 120 they're balanced differently.

DxV04 wrote:

whitechikz11 wrote:I wonder if all the gravelords will stay at the bon room...Like a sauna

I'm in!

fearandwhiskey wrote:

DxV04 wrote:

whitechikz11 wrote:I wonder if all the gravelords will stay at the bon room...Like a sauna

I'm in!

Yes, we will party rockin inside! :bom:

Ghadis_God wrote:I wasn't "just" using a longsword, it was an example. I had a Battle Axe, Server, Estoc, Lucerne, and Longsword, none were very effective at +5. I also tried the charcoal buff, and it added maybe 40 damage a hit on other people, maybe even less. That is a good point about the heavier weapons at +10, but that is a part of balance that those weapons be more powerful, as at 120 they're balanced differently.

I recall now that you did set up with the Lucerne.. hmmmmmmmmmm this is indeed a fine line.
Maybe this is a difficult question to answer but did you notice a lot of players with heavier armors?
I don't know what to tell you Ghadis. I think the all the weapons you mentioned are better than a +5 reinforced club. execpt for the longsword. I do agree some of my matches where a bit long but that is a change for the good from getting 1 or 2 shotted.

Dp you use a pyro flame?

No, I used a SL 20 GL toon I already had for the event, and I never used pyro. I know all the guys who did the SL1 in the burg had one due to starting as a pyro, but I didn't attend that one, so I guess I'll get one. I saw a few guys in pieces of heavier armor, but it's not like anyone was flipping in full Giant's. I still had a lot of fun with the event but I didn't bb glitch this toon so I didn't have the options other players did. You'd really be surprised how much difference the hands and feet of heavy armor make at that level, especially when I was in all light for fast roll.

I didn't really have much difficulty inflicting about 200 damage a poke with my +5 rapier and scimitar I didn't have a +10 legging or gauntlets though, so I took more damage than I gave most of the time.

But I also neglected vit and had about 30 dex at the time. So it could have caused some difference. I was kind of worried when I saw some of the armour, but it didn't turn out as bad as I thought. I also didn't BB and just had wanderer legs and eastern gauntlets I think. I honestly don't think its a problem, but when armour goes up to +15 we should have +15 weapons as well I'd think. Rather than +10 weapons and +15 armour in blight town.

I will be ready this weekend and dropping my sign in bonfire room, So look for it there or in the slime hallway.

@Gadhis, We will definitely go up after this. Can we help you get the items you want?
@ Yukon, which armor pieces go up to +15? I thought they only went up to +10 and the twinky armor.
@ Beck one more week sir! Saturday the 18th!!

hurp, what was I must have got hit on the head one too many times last night.

Dark, I'm totally happy with the server and estoc, I don't need new weapons or items. And Yukon, yeah, the 30 Dex. would explain it, but I was doing 20 damage a poke with the Estoc, I'm surprised there was so much of a difference, perhaps the increasing returns of AR only really start after a certain level of damage.

Well Ghadis my Clay was only doing 80 to 90 a swing.

Hmm, my axe was doing about 60, so that does make sense. I just wonder if people are going to bring their armor to the next level once we enter the Depths

DxV04 wrote:I understand his concern too. There is just no way to balance this because as it was pointed out a +10 zwei is not the same as a +10 straight sword. so even if we went up there is still no balance. I think a +10 pyro, pine resin, charcoal resin, a better weapon at +5 is a good way to go. I have already decided when we make our run through Btown we will start the level with weapons at +10.

I would also add that anything anyone needs can be supplied.

I was actually thinking about this last night and came up with a great idea. How about we do an AR cap instead of an upgrade cap? Say a cap of 250?

For example the +5 clay was about 210 I think with my stats, but Glatts said his Uchi was only about 160. So he could take his uchi up to about +8 and it would match the AR of the clay.

This would essencially even the playing field and would make a couple more weapons more viable. Daggers could probably go up to +15 to balance them out.

Any thoughts?

Just sounds like we're getting too complicated. This event is spread across three forums, we'll be lucky to keep everyone at +5 lol