by That cost you your friendship? I'm shocked. Simply voicing your opinion is not a crime. Especially since it was a simple misunderstanding.
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The "let it out" thread.
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I've lost friendships over many small dumb things.
One ended once because a black friend of mine asked me if I found a girl attractive. I didn't, and told him so. He asked if I find black women attractive, and I said I didn't. He called me a racist and didn't want to talk to me anymore. I tried to explain it was just on the level of attraction, I have nothing against any race but he wouldn't hear it.
I suppose being a heterosexual, I'm sexist against men since I'm not attracted to them. Or it is bigotry if I prefer women with blue eyes.
Communicating with people can leave me pretty depressed as a whole sometimes.
One ended once because a black friend of mine asked me if I found a girl attractive. I didn't, and told him so. He asked if I find black women attractive, and I said I didn't. He called me a racist and didn't want to talk to me anymore. I tried to explain it was just on the level of attraction, I have nothing against any race but he wouldn't hear it.
I suppose being a heterosexual, I'm sexist against men since I'm not attracted to them. Or it is bigotry if I prefer women with blue eyes.
Communicating with people can leave me pretty depressed as a whole sometimes.
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It aint you Tolvo.
Most people dont understand the differences between subjectivity and objectivity.
Then of course there's taboo.
Such as, black comedians can get away with making fun of white people, while white comedians cant pull it off nearly as well.
Times are changing, but the residual effects of the past obviously affect such a simple concept.
Also, stating this neither says that I like black comedians more or white comedians more.
It also discriminates in an extremely literal way against everyone who is not a black or white comedian, like they are "left out" of the conversation or something.
Mankind's problem has always been communication. It wont change anytime soon.
People that are able to listen instead of hear have a clear advantage. But people who are convicted in their beliefs are not usually able listen...only hear.
It sounds like the problems you've stated with some friends lies in your choice of friends, not how you are treating them.
Most people dont understand the differences between subjectivity and objectivity.
Then of course there's taboo.
Such as, black comedians can get away with making fun of white people, while white comedians cant pull it off nearly as well.
Times are changing, but the residual effects of the past obviously affect such a simple concept.
Also, stating this neither says that I like black comedians more or white comedians more.
It also discriminates in an extremely literal way against everyone who is not a black or white comedian, like they are "left out" of the conversation or something.
Mankind's problem has always been communication. It wont change anytime soon.
People that are able to listen instead of hear have a clear advantage. But people who are convicted in their beliefs are not usually able listen...only hear.
It sounds like the problems you've stated with some friends lies in your choice of friends, not how you are treating them.
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No, because due to how her and her friends are, I don't want to get mixed up in that situation anymore, despite me liking my friend.Vinyl Scratch wrote:Go for your friend instead. Just go out on a date and who knows your may just end up liking her.
Hell, the only time I ever get contacted by that group is when they need a DD or something similar.
edit: Just to clarify, this is only ever AFTER all the fun has been had....
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- twilightwarwolf wrote:i need to get something off my chest so hear me out for a sec. ive been having an odd week to say the least and actually my whole life feels like its been upside down since my parents left to go have my mom get shots for her back and since i didnt have spring break i couldnt go.
so what did i do i stayed at a friends and although it was arlight i cant help but feel i forced my friend into an akward position when i asked him and then when i was over because he said yes. so during when my parents were gone i was going between my house and his and that was definitely wierd not to mention i feel like i REALLY neglected my dogs which i never want to but i feel like i neglect them all the time.
then when they came back it was wierd because i hadnt seen them for a few days and had gotten used to being able to do nothing really. a few days later i got used to them being around again and it was alright but i still felt like i had changed or just felt odd on the inside and that went through the weekend and partially into the next week which then i proceeded to have an awful monday with my highlight being my return home which isnt really a highlight and not to mention i have been having depressive states and ok days but not really been feeling myself. but i ignore it and try tell myself it'll pass and it'll all be like it was and then we come to this week
...ugh... to start my "friend" ( i consider my friends acuantences partially because i havent gotten over the move from last year and becuase it takes me awhile to trust people not to mention most of my friends are seniors and juniors and as a sophmore its odd especially when everyone thinks im a junior or senior) so anyway back to my friend his girlfriend is being adopted by her grandfather who is some christian ( i say it like that as i have no idea what kind of christian because people have to have freakin kind of christian. i swear people are F'in stupid anyway) and my friend being pagan... well you get the idea not to mention they've.. done it and both family's know ( why the hell am i telling people this? ugh im such a moron. i dont know why im even talkin in these parenthesis!). and so now they only get to see each other in his girlfriends church so thats not going to be wierd or anything. i know this isnt really ay of my business but i cant help but feel bad or sad for them becuase they really do seem and act like a great couple. my friend has actually been close to tears several times already! seriously how much more genuine can ya get?
then my same friend today was down talking Steven Hawking by saying he has made 3? (i think he said three but i dont know for sure) big mistakes and has made false evidence and lost to a plumber in a science debate ( which i know he did but that whole debate was over ten years ago i think and from what he knew at the time it makes sense that maybe he wouldnt be right. not to mention that people can be wrong so why SO much hate to a dude who as far as i know doesnt deserve it?!?!?) and the to top it off he said that Europe is in bigger debt to... i cant remember hell maybe he didnt say a country he might have just said in debt and a debt bigger than AMERICA. i called ******** because we owe TRILLIONS to China and that can't be more than Europe but maybe he's right i havent watched any news type thing in awhile and it is possible that others can be in a state like America. And then i was wondering for the remainder of the day two things 1. would a complete nuking of the world be a mercy? ( cant remember my reasonings for that so maybe that was a one time thought) but i came to the concluson that no thats not right and why am i being stupid enough to even think that may be a good thing to do.
and 2. i was thinkng over christianity because of a *** picture i saw on deviant art and what the descrpition said which all and all maybe be ******** but how do i know? i never read the bible through and through because i found it boring until i read revalations and Job which are the only books id WILLINGLY read all of and am interested in. ( not to mention i only consider myself christian plain and simple becuase all these "different" types are bull as they all go to the same thing... or at least thats how it has been in the churches ive gone to which have been different.) So yeah ive screwed myself over on various things not to mention i feel like i cant do ANYTHING at all (IRL) because i dont do anything.
i just got told a few min ago yet again that ive got to start caring for my dog otherwise we may have to put her down. and i dont want her put down but i cant really care for someone if i dont feel like i even love my dog let alone my family (which is another thing ive been feeling for weeks now but ive pondered it over those weeks and more or less recently came to the conclusion). so im a useless mess walking around.
and yeah thats how my past few WEEKS have been going with me fighting this so i can find that light at the end of the tunnel that i keep hearing about but feel like i never see. I apologize for being an attention hog but i had to at least get SOME of how ive been feeling off my chest
It seems to me like you do love your dog. The fact that you don't want her put down seems like enough evidence to me, and i think you're simply confused, which is okay because we all get confused sometimes.
Something i would suggest is spending more time with your family and have fun. Awake your feelings for them again so that you won't feel so numb anymore.
I also recommend doing something creative like painting, taking photos, making music etc. I also think you should get some time for yourself to simply thing. Go somewhere nice like a hill where the sun shines or something else that you really like. Stay there for an hour or two and just think. Think about your family and how you love them. Try to dig inside of yourself and find that plug that prevents you from feeling the love for them.
In these kind of situations it is always hard to give advice and/or help. And in all honesty, the best one to help you is yourself, as you know everything already. I hope i've been of some help to you, and know that if ever you need to talk, just send me a message and i'll answer right away.
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Hell, I don't find most black women attractive (some I do, but not most). Like it or not, they are different and look different. Part of attraction is looks. So, it is not racist. People need to understand what racist means. Everyone is not equal.
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Hey Tolvo. I agree with you. And also, expressing one's opinion has the potential to cut friends off. That's just the way it is. It sucks, and opinions really shouldn't do that, but it happens. And all the better, you'll eventually find more mature friends who express their opinions and are fine with differences.
I don't mind race in my partners. I remember as a kid I always wanted to grow up and marry a Russian woman with long black hair and paper-pale skin.
I'm attracted to a woman if she doesn't hurt my eyes to look at and she isn't a b*tch. 
And everyone is not equal. In fact, I believe equality is everyone is given the same foundation, what they do with it is their problem.
Oh yeah. Equality:
A feminist demands to be treated as equally as a man. So I raise my fist to deck her for being an annoying prick with no practical sense of reason. She flinches as says, "Stop! You can't hit me, I'm a woman!"
I don't mind race in my partners. I remember as a kid I always wanted to grow up and marry a Russian woman with long black hair and paper-pale skin.
I'm attracted to a woman if she doesn't hurt my eyes to look at and she isn't a b*tch. And everyone is not equal. In fact, I believe equality is everyone is given the same foundation, what they do with it is their problem.
Oh yeah. Equality:
A feminist demands to be treated as equally as a man. So I raise my fist to deck her for being an annoying prick with no practical sense of reason. She flinches as says, "Stop! You can't hit me, I'm a woman!"
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Well I'm an egalitarian, so I believe everyone should be treated equally. But that's just a differing view we have. It's what also sort of bothers me about that sort of mentality in people when they suddenly think I'm prejudice.
I believe in equality for everyone, if there is something to vote for around here I will. I'm not into feminism because I want social equality for both genders. You get the picture.
One I'm also given **** for is that I'm not attracted to Asian women either. I'm just not attracted to them, yet a lot of guys I know always talk about how they're all pretty. So people often like to **** on me about that.
I believe in equality for everyone, if there is something to vote for around here I will. I'm not into feminism because I want social equality for both genders. You get the picture.
One I'm also given **** for is that I'm not attracted to Asian women either. I'm just not attracted to them, yet a lot of guys I know always talk about how they're all pretty. So people often like to **** on me about that.
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Lol, either they are just bullsh***ing you or they are idiots.
I believe everyone should be treated equally. What you do with that is up to you, so if some win and others lose, and you are one of the losers, that's your own damn fault.
In fact that's my life's #3 rule:
There are winners and there are losers. Strive to win.
It also is my #1 practical rule, but my #1 and #2 rules are
1. Love your neighbor as yourself.
2. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind.
I believe everyone should be treated equally. What you do with that is up to you, so if some win and others lose, and you are one of the losers, that's your own damn fault.
In fact that's my life's #3 rule:
There are winners and there are losers. Strive to win.
It also is my #1 practical rule, but my #1 and #2 rules are
1. Love your neighbor as yourself.
2. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind.
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You sound like you have a more practical rule than my number one.
1: Journeys end, Losers Die.
1: Journeys end, Losers Die.
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That's just reality to me, and due to my faith, that doesn't really affect me much. In the end, we all die. There is nothing we can do about it, except enjoy what we have, then find more things to enjoy. I already enjoy all that I want. Namely, video games, my cats, my dog, my family, my books, you guys, and my church. Having a girl would be nice, too, but I lack the time for any kind of commitment. I may or may not be attractive enough as well. However, that might change.
I was accepted to go to the Naval Academy Summer Seminar and the United States Air Force Academy Summer Seminar, so I am working out almost everyday. By the end of this summer, I should have a large upper body, instead of this slim body type.
I was accepted to go to the Naval Academy Summer Seminar and the United States Air Force Academy Summer Seminar, so I am working out almost everyday. By the end of this summer, I should have a large upper body, instead of this slim body type.
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I am also an egalitarian. Part of why I support the feminst or LGBQT movements are because equality hasn't been reached for these groups. But I don't believe they should have any special treatment either.Tolvo wrote:Well I'm an egalitarian, so I believe everyone should be treated equally. But that's just a differing view we have. It's what also sort of bothers me about that sort of mentality in people when they suddenly think I'm prejudice.
I believe in equality for everyone, if there is something to vote for around here I will. I'm not into feminism because I want social equality for both genders. You get the picture.
One I'm also given **** for is that I'm not attracted to Asian women either. I'm just not attracted to them, yet a lot of guys I know always talk about how they're all pretty. So people often like to **** on me about that.
On your point about Asian women, I agree, no question about it. Most are unattractive or have something... about them.
But then you have the few who look like this <3 :
- Zhang Ziyi:
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I'm not one who finds black women and asians attractive in general. But even then, there are exceptions. For example, one of the most beautiful women i've ever seen is black.
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Socially neither genders have equality, so I'd rather fight for both than just one.
To use internet evidence, there are a good deal of tropes about media in which both genders are persecuted.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleStandard
There is a section for sexist against women, and another for sexist against men. Ten a both, and neither.
When even TV tropes picks up on such things I feel that I shouldn't focus on just advancing one.
To use internet evidence, there are a good deal of tropes about media in which both genders are persecuted.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleStandard
There is a section for sexist against women, and another for sexist against men. Ten a both, and neither.
When even TV tropes picks up on such things I feel that I shouldn't focus on just advancing one.
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I don't know much about egalitarianism, but from what i just read, i think i can say that i too am egalitarian. Or atleast part egalitarian. Gotta read more on it before i say anything though.
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EeAyEss wrote:Oh yeah. Equality:
A feminist demands to be treated as equally as a man. So I raise my fist to deck her for being an annoying prick with no practical sense of reason. She flinches as says, "Stop! You can't hit me, I'm a woman!"
Actually, most real feminists are those who want equal rights between the two sexes, not just women to dominate men. It's just taht the really vocal ones are the crazies that almost every man hates, so it really paints them in a bad light.
And let's be honest, what man doesn't like being dominated at least a little bit. I know I do
As for the topic of different races of women, I must say that my scale goes like this, descending order:
Women of other races
White women
Beautiful women of other races
Red Headed white women.
Red Heads are my kryptonite.
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Bold is for extreme agreement.Slarg232 wrote:
Actually, most real feminists are those who want equal rights between the two sexes, not just women to dominate men. It's just taht the really vocal ones are the crazies that almost every man hates, so it really paints them in a bad light.
And let's be honest, what man doesn't like being dominated at least a little bit. I know I do
As for the topic of different races of women, I must say that my scale goes like this, descending order:
Women of other races
White women
Beautiful women of other races
Red Headed white women.
Red Heads are my kryptonite.
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I actually use the term Feminazi, but I only use it for the crazy loud ones.
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I hate everything Rush Limbaugh so I refuse to acknowledge that term.
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I dunt get it.
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Oh wait, does he use that term?
I had no idea, I can't blame you then. I just use offensive words sometimes, however I try to not use them in offensive ways. Essentially I want to change how certain words are used because I hate how they are used.
A more controversial thing, I use the N word. But I don't use it when referring to black people. I think it is a powerful word to use as an insult to get a point, but I don't like the racial affiliations. Similar to the C word and relating to women.
I'm a sailor basically.
I had no idea, I can't blame you then. I just use offensive words sometimes, however I try to not use them in offensive ways. Essentially I want to change how certain words are used because I hate how they are used.
A more controversial thing, I use the N word. But I don't use it when referring to black people. I think it is a powerful word to use as an insult to get a point, but I don't like the racial affiliations. Similar to the C word and relating to women.
I'm a sailor basically.
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Rush Limbaugh coined the term, actually
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I actually just got banned from a forum I used to go to alot because I used that term XDTolvo wrote:I actually use the term Feminazi, but I only use it for the crazy loud ones.
It was hilarious how butt hurt that mod got XD
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Well if you notice, I don't use these terms on the forum.
I only use them in real life.
I only use them in real life.
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Oh it was hilarious though. The mod went through and deleted EVERY post I had in the topic, and every post that replied to me, JUST because I used that word. I was even argueing FOR the feminists in the thread, as well XD
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