I'm sick of the " elitism " from the souls series

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

Serious_Much wrote:

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

Sorry viral, but probably mistake making your post. Saying things like some are less equal I.. I don't even wanna know how deep your fascism goes but whatever.

I also find it amusing how you talk about a new generation of gaming when you're not even out your teens, I certainly don't think I'm qualified to talk about "back when I started gaming...", besides difficulty in older games was partially because controls sucked if I'm honest.

The Letter X wrote:

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

Those casual gamers can change, though. I am the only one in my group of gamer friends that has so far, but I'm working on changing a couple more.

Serious_Much wrote:

ViralEnsign_ wrote:Im sorry, Im a bit drunk, and Im a bit anrgy, though not becuse of anything in particular, and I think the souls series does produce "better" quality gamers! Or perhaps not better quality but possesing of better virtues.

I can't explain the number of times I have been disgusted at the state of casual gamers because they can't figure out the simplest of things, the number of times people expect to be guided through games because they can't be bothered to even think about the scenario presented to them, the countless times they have praised auto aim or OHKO's because they couldn't stand fighting enemies for more than a few seconds....

Its pitiful. The new generations of gamers are weak. They know nothing of struggle, they plaay games that are made movies for them, they barely challenge themselves.

I know thing because I challenged a casual to play dark souls and he couldnt beat the Taurus Demon. He couldnt get past the Black Knight. He was weak.

There are levels of gamership whether you want to admit it or not. Some people are less equal than others, they can't handle the tasks that others can.

Sorry viral, but probably mistake making your post. Saying things like some are less equal I.. I don't even wanna know how deep your fascism goes but whatever.

I also find it amusing how you talk about a new generation of gaming when you're not even out your teens, I certainly don't think I'm qualified to talk about "back when I started gaming...", besides difficulty in older games was partially because controls sucked if I'm honest.

Serious_Much wrote:He was talking about equality not in skill but more in worthyness, which is something incorrect to state their (our I guess I'm not hardcore) opinions and right to play games is less.

Interesting viral you'd choose not to discuss out in the open, but sure ill drop it, your drunken and probably misworded opinions aren't worth discussing really.

Besides ITS CHRISTMASSS, I don't want people getting miffed today

Sloth9230 wrote:I hate the term hardcore gamer. Makes me think of some guy plays video games 24/7, or that guy who makes fun of you if you don't pick Fox in supersmash bro's. Nothing against them, but I'm not them and don't want to be described in the same manner.

I like hard games, it doesn't make me a hardcore gamer.

Edit: it would seem wikipedia disagrees with me, oh well

MasterofShadows wrote:Look, I think you guys need to accept that there is no such thing as a "new generation" of gamers. Its just that gaming has become more mainstream, so people that would have never picked up games during the last generation (casual players) are now picking them up. That phenomenon will only increase as games become more technologically advanced and continue to meet more needs. The "hardcore" player, as some would like to call it, is not tied to any past or present generation or culture. Its more of a certain type of person. Yes, some people can be "taught" to be better players, but to be as passionate about gaming as we all are, you just have to be that type of person. Tying it to a person's age or culture will never work. Hardcore players are not "dying out". There are just more and more casuals coming into the market, that the hardcore group, which is also growing, yet slower, will always seem much much smaller.

Serious_Much wrote:He was talking about equality not in skill but more in worthyness, which is something incorrect to state their (our I guess I'm not hardcore) opinions and right to play games is less.

Interesting viral you'd choose not to discuss out in the open, but sure ill drop it, your drunken and probably misworded opinions aren't worth discussing really.

Besides ITS CHRISTMASSS, I don't want people getting miffed today

ComaPrison wrote:

Sloth9230 wrote:I hate the term hardcore gamer. Makes me think of some guy plays video games 24/7, or that guy who makes fun of you if you don't pick Fox in supersmash bro's. Nothing against them, but I'm not them and don't want to be described in the same manner.

I like hard games, it doesn't make me a hardcore gamer.

Edit: it would seem wikipedia disagrees with me, oh well

You're a hardcore gamer.

The guy who plays video games 24/7 is just obsessed/imbalanced/troubled/lacks other hobbies/lacks other ambitions. Not a hardcore gamer. The guy who makes fun of you if you don't pick Fox in Super Smash Bros is just an F-ing a-hole that has completely lost sight of the diversity that exists in the definition of fun (it's not always about winning). Tunnel vision at its worst.

MasterofShadows wrote:Look, I think you guys need to accept that there is no such thing as a "new generation" of gamers. Its just that gaming has become more mainstream, so people that would have never picked up games during the last generation (casual players) are now picking them up. That phenomenon will only increase as games become more technologically advanced and continue to meet more needs. The "hardcore" player, as some would like to call it, is not tied to any past or present generation or culture. Its more of a certain type of person. Yes, some people can be "taught" to be better players, but to be as passionate about gaming as we all are, you just have to be that type of person. Tying it to a person's age or culture will never work. Hardcore players are not "dying out". There are just more and more casuals coming into the market, that the hardcore group, which is also growing, yet slower, will always seem much much smaller.

Agreed. The hardcore group exists in every generation. It's just that the casual group is expanding much more rapidly in size due to the recent explosion in gaming's accessibility. That being said, there still should be games dedicated for the hardcore groups. If game companies lose sight of that, it would be tragic for the progress of game design as an art. It's one of the reasons why I am so vociferously opposed to any sign of the casualization/mainstreaming of Dark Souls 2.

dancash1808 wrote:not to mention it doesnt tell you the plot it shows you and lets you work it out for yourself and apply meaning. doesnt tell you how to play and throws you in and expects you to work it out.
oh god. angry birds = hardcore.
dark souls = hardcore.
angry birds = dark souls.

Sloth9230 wrote:They're different forms of entertainment. Angry birds is supposed to be something that keeps you busy while you're on bus/train or just plain bored. Dark Soul's actually requires that you take time to sit down in front of a tv/monitor and think about what you're doing/are going to do.

The Letter X wrote:
That sarcasm was so intense that I'm not even sure if ComaPrison could top that.

Sloth9230 wrote:They're different forms of entertainment. Angry birds is supposed to be something that keeps you busy while you're on bus/train or just plain bored. Dark Soul's actually requires that you take time to sit down in front of a tv/monitor and think about what you're doing/are going to do.