Tolvo wrote:I say we have a drunk tournament, spears only.
I'm in...whats the minimum drink count.
Tolvo wrote:I say we have a drunk tournament, spears only.
Jansports wrote:I didn't say good players only use spears I said they'd be willing to pull one out if it meant the difference between winning and losing. Wyrm Billy Rooster Reim Over the months and it's been quite some time since I've crossed swords with a few of them, I've seen them use spears (among many other weapons)
The very fact many good players use weapons other than spears to me signifies that they are not in fact so powerfull as to cause balance problems
The Letter X wrote:I've yet to find a player that is generally good and uses a spear as their main weapon except for Lord of Ash. I understand that may be your opinion on the best players, but the rest of them haven't held true to it for me.
Jansports wrote:I didn't say good players only use spears I said they'd be willing to pull one out if it meant the difference between winning and losing. Wyrm Billy Rooster Reim Over the months and it's been quite some time since I've crossed swords with a few of them, I've seen them use spears (among many other weapons)
The very fact many good players use weapons other than spears to me signifies that they are not in fact so powerfull as to cause balance problems
Jansports wrote:Tolvo posts best spear counter. Everyone agrees bow kiting is 100% better than spear kiting.
Spears are so easy and unfair still waaahhhhhh wahhhhhhh
Spurgun wrote:Pull out a great scythe, lock off and do a running r1 attack while dodging all the arrows. If they switch weapons, just pull out the spear again.
Rynn wrote:pretty much... if you look at weapons along all the traits that make it good, a spear has the best overall score.
Damage, Stamina Cost, Weight, Range, Attack Speed, Recovery Speed, Moveset, Backstab Damage, Leo Counter Potential, etc.
If you look at all it's traits, spears have impressive damage, low stamina cost, the highest range in the entire game, very quick attack speeds, quick recovery, a usable though limited moveset, impressive weight to backstab power ratio, low weight for it's potential, can get Leo Counters, and has an advantage that short of rapiers, no other weapon has, of being able to attack while blocking.
Statistically they are overpowered, and even if they can be beaten, merely picking one up improves nearly anyones odds of victory, due to how many advantages compared to other weapons they have.
The weapon isn't skill-less, the person must think to use it appropriately, but it's got the lowest skill cap of all weapons to do well with it.
Slarg232 wrote:I honestly don't have much experiance fighting spears (Mostly katanas is what I go up against), but can't you just get Poise and a STR weapon and pound them into the ground?
no, thats assuming the spear user catches you mid swing because they predict your attack or see it start, the zweih user is stuck in the swing untill the spear stuns him out of it.Dutchy wrote:Forum Pirate wrote:
Also (as an example) For every 1 zweihander hit for 450 damage and 75 poise damage, the spear can attack 3 times for just over 1k damage without the leo ring and 90 poise damage.
That's if your retarded enough to not have a shield, have no to minimal poise. I don't have much trouble with spears, I actually hate Zwei users. So what does that speak about me?
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