Why all the Spear Hating???

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed elementals- people made +15 builds

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed DWGR- people made END builds

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed greatswords- people started using curved greatswords

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed family masks- people began min/maxing

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed Crystal Ring Shield- MLGS all day

densetsushun wrote:All of your points are actually just improvements.

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed elementals- people made +15 builds

People started maxing damage by pumping the right points.

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed DWGR- people made END builds

More points people need to pump, which means less for other stuff if you wanna stay at the PvP meta. It also meant a wiser choice of armor to get to your optimal min/maxing.

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed greatswords- people started using curved greatswords

People started exploring more weapons.

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed family masks- people began min/maxing

People had to min/max their armor better.

Dibsville wrote:
They nerfed Crystal Ring Shield- MLGS all day

People started using actual weapons instead of crystal shield spamming. Granted, they could've at least made Crystal Ring Shield scale with int yet have absurdly low base damage.

Tolvo wrote:I actually fine with things not having a lot of power outside of glass cannon builds.

I remember the DWGR nerf and while it was good for PvP, the nerf was even better for PvE. I had to remember how to actually dodge again. The lack of an easy way out made me better at PvE, and PvP as well I feel.

Dark Souls is not a game about feeling powerful in my book. It's about challenging yourself.

Dibsville wrote:When From nerfs things, people just find something new to use.
They nerfed elementals- people made +15 builds
They nerfed DWGR- people made END builds
They nerfed greatswords- people started using curved greatswords
They nerfed family masks- people began min/maxing
They nerfed Crystal Ring Shield- MLGS all day
And now spears?

Rynn wrote:No, I told you why everyone hates spears.
They are stupid and annoying to fight against, if you want some specific, I'll give them.

Assuming you light roll, you have enough mobility to keep your opponent at the edge of your range 100% of the time. You're far enough away that due to your range, no weapon except another spear is capable of reaching you to kill you. This is made worse by how lag give you a larger hitbox with a spear than otherwise, and you can block your with shield to turtle if deemed neccesary, making you even more difficult to reach/fight. Your opponent has no way of injuring you without being injured themself, and due to the damage rating of the Dragonslayer Spear, the trade they have to take for an opportunity (that they can miss) to hurt you is a lose-lose situation. Unless they are holding a rapier or a spear, from the moment they spawn to the moment they die there is no reasonable way for them to win unless you make a very fatal mistake.

That is why spears are hated.

And dutchy, you're dead wrong with that idealistic statement. Some weapons ARE easier to use then others.

xRamenatorx wrote:@Animaaal Agreed.

Also in my earlier post i was saying the spears rb shouod be slower because that would not only make it more fair for some i geuss but require more skill/timing from the spear user. No more spams after an enemy rolls haha

LunarFog wrote:All I'm going to sayfor now is that if they nerf spears, they better nerf the soul spears too. If my babies are getting nerfed to hell then I at least want some sort of compensation for their suffering.