Crime Sceene Investigation
OK , here's to flogging a dead horse.
Being sick and indoors for about a week, I got into this lore and pendant stuff, which I'm not really happy about since you go nuts testing dead ends and trying to put things together all the time, but I have a couple of things to point out and i'm posting this maybe someone gets some ideas from it to test.
I've always chosen the pendant since From recommended that, just in case, even though i never bothered with it, but I got sucked into this lore and pendant sh-tuff; and started reading glynblade's secrets thread and various other sources, like "there's more to them", youtube vids, etc, thinking the ideas there are interesting, but maybe it's just a matter of putting the pieces together for a complete playthrough in a way that makes sense to some sort of rogue storyline.
( Like I always thought Kaarthe's idea/ route made more sense than Frampt's, but then when you beat Gwyn and choose the dark lord ending, nothing grand happens in my opinion, and in the dialogue you get
"...return of the dark lord yadda yadda, Let Kaarthe, AND FRAMPT, serve your highness...." . Seriously Frampt?? On the same team? Leeching? wtf is going on!?)
Anyway I liked ideas that sometimes seem random or far fetched, but when you are in the zone so to speak, any idea people have makes some sense to you, so I started going along the game trying whatever I could think of as a big picture, but got stuck in a loop.
Basically I think there was something not quite right from the get-go with information about the pendant, but can't jump to conclusions and have none yet, and don't know where exactly to proceed after this.
In a nutshell,
If Petrus kills Rhea in the Parish, we assumed that Rhea drops the pendant, and that Petrus
killed her since he drops the ivory talisman if you kill him after Rhea's been killed.
However, there is a possibility that the pendant belonged to her killer, not Rhea, since she does not drop the pendant anywhere else where she makes an appearence (if you kill her at those locations); It's not dropped in Firelink, not dropped in ToGiants, not dropped in the Archives Prison.
You could argue that she somehow picked it up just before going to the Parish, and got rid of it somehow before going to the archives prison, but how does that help us?
Did she join the forest hunters for a while, kill intruders, got a pendant, then go to for a quick stop at snuggly and traded it? Or maybe her jailers took it off her? Let her keep her talisman?
( I stopped writing after that last thought, got an idea and went on one of my chars with Rhea stranded in ToGiants. So I saved her, went to Parish, killed her there, no pendant.
So I dont think she ever had the pendant herself. Also, after saving her and talking to petrus and before going to kill her, I killed Petrus to see if he drops the pendant at that point, which he doesn't. Read on for explanation why I had to test this too )
Back to Rhea and Pendant
I was thinking that if the pendant really didn't belong to Rhea, but her assailant, she either ripped it off somehow, in like a struggle, or her killer left it there as some tradition or gesture. Those are the two things I can think of at this point, in any case I don't think it ever belonged to Rhea.
Earlier than this Rhea + pendant theory, I had thought - what if Petrus isn't the hand that kills Rhea, just the architect and got someone else to do it (he seems more a shifty coward than murderer), and maybe Petrus had requested whoever it was that done the deed, to bring him the ivory talisman as either proof that the deed was done, or the ivory talisamn has some value to him. (I've been running around the catacombs where the white resonance rings appear, near last necromancer and 2 archers, in full maiden set and ivory talisman trying to think of something. I know what they are meant to do, but why are they in that spot out of all places in the game? I've had a cart-wheel skelly go through the wall
in that area, like a glitch, but who knows).
Anyway if Rhea didn't have the pendant, neither did Petrus just before he was meant to kill her.
There is more to this that i have pieced together, mainly around Forest Guys and also Beatrice (yes, i know ) that might make some sense for leads to follow. But might follow up later.
Right now I cant say either theories or possibilities ( That pendant is Rhea's, or that the pendant is not Rhea's) are correct untill I find a way to verify something on either side. Either proving, or disproving something (to imply the other is right)
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