by Shakie666 Tue May 14, 2013 7:16 pm
barrywilkins wrote: you should have said "either you use Mega Mule, or you PVE grind for hours and hours"
i
can make the exact same characters with Mega Mule or not, the
difference is one requires no grind the other requires a grind. i
prefer no grind and then using my extra free time to hang out with
friends, go to the gym, play with my dog. it is Summer after all, i
don't want to sit inside all day.
i see both sides of the
argument though, its the people who A. think you should put in the hours
and hours of PVE just to compete in PVP. and B. the people who only
see the end game and don't care how you get there.
I remeber when
the game first came out, i literally farmed the Black Knights in the
Klin for 4 hours straight just to get the BK Greataxe. does that make
me any more deserving of the BKGA then some one who got it on the first
drop in the Catacombs? just because i spent 4 hours to get it and some
one got it instantly...? i know its not the same, but you can see the
similarities. time investment vs final reward.
The thing is, you're refusing to see the side of the coin for players who don't want to hack just to remain competitive. For you, you'll probably just use it to quickly make a build that stands on fair ground with other already finished characters. However, there are many players out there who would make 99+ crystal weapons who no longer have to worry about ever running out because, the worst that can happen is they have to copypaste the file again. For a legitimate player, crystal weapons aren't a viable tool to use whenever they feel like it unless they want to grind for hours on end after already grinding their characters levels from scratch. This gives the Mega Mule player a huge advantage in that while one person was grinding out the Darkwraiths for hours, the other guy was pvping and sharpening his skills.
This may not seem like a huge leap in terms of power. But, the fact of the matter is that this gives players who don't use this hack a clear disadvantage in terms of power. If I want to get the same power that mega mule provides in just minutes, then i have to beat the game 5+ times, get over 200 titanite slabs, and purposefully ignore the fact that I'll never be able to go from hosting in Sen's to hosting in Blightown without beating the game again.
To be fair, I really think this problem with crystal weapons is the fault of FromSoft itself. I mean, they must've known that no-one would ever use them unless people had easy access to endless slabs. Before the BB glitch (and MM, which is effectively BB glitch re-incarnate), this was the case. They also must've known that it was only a matter of time before someone found a way to get those endless slabs.
With regards to low-level trolling: I know 30 casts of dark bead right off the bat is bad, but thats not the only way of doing it. If I was really keen, I could probably get a +5 chaos zweihander in half a day, possibly +5 full giants as well. Those alone are enough to pretty much guarantee death for the victim. This is different to spamming dark bead, but the outcome is the same. You of course have to spend time getting a +5 chaos zweihander, but its not really that much, and its not as if that time is just endless grinding: its actually playing properly.
Tl:dr Low lvl dark bead isn't really much more powerful than low-lvl trolling tools already at our disposal.
